TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Complains about spyware // proceeds to use a software that was funded by the CIA.

smort ,
@smort@lemmy.world avatar

Which software is that?

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar
starman ,
@starman@programming.dev avatar

What do you mean?

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Open Whisper Systems received about 3M USD total from the US government via the Open Technology Fund for the purpose of technology development … during 2013 to 2016. Source: archive of the OTF website: https://web.archive.org/web/20221015073552/https://www.opentech.fund/results/supported-projects/open-whisper-systems/

Who knows if there isn't some fundamental and simple flaw with some part of it that nobody is seeing. For what worth the all Snowden could be a major psy-op to make people believe that Signal is really secure and that there are no backdoors into it - after all the guy spends most of the time promoting Signal.

lemmyTXV3742 ,

Where on that archive does it say the US government was the one that funded OWS? I don't see it.

supangle ,

i feel sick when i have to use closed-source [is that a word?] software, everything has to be open source and work in linux

Napain ,

aurora still does a lot of tracking for google

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Swap KP for Vaultwarden, FD for Obtainium, NP for Grayjay, and you basically have my setup.

Though I still run windows for gaming.

velox_vulnus ,
@velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml avatar

But Grayjay isn't open-source, is it? Just source-available - it has some weird FUTO license. LibreTube and Newpipe, on the other hand are GPL-3.0 licensed.

Rikj000 ,
@Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Correct:
https://hiphish.github.io/blog/2023/10/18/grayjay-is-not-open-source/

For that reason I use Tubular,
a fork of NewPipe which supports SponsorBlock + ReturnYouTubeDislike:
https://github.com/polymorphicshade/Tubular

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

shrug I'm alright with that until given verifiable proof that I should not be. I have been enjoying the app and it's a decent bit nicer to use and look at than the usual candidates, imo. I'm not going to rag on something for not being 100% foss with agpl 3 or whatever, just because of that fact.

lemann ,

Yep, look but don't touch unless it's for personal use. Not ideal, but I think it's a step up compared to a completely closed source alternative.

I can somewhat understand the reasons, particularly looking at the fake NewPipe app malware on the Play Store, and Louis' own experiences of being screwed over by other lobbyists while trying to pass R2R legislation in the cleanest possible condition. Trademark protection + GPLv3 would have mostly sufficed I think, but an explicit "prohibition" by license allows for a much faster legal conclusion AFAIK.

The unusual license may also be to allow distribution on iOS at some point, as GPL licensed software is not allowed on the iOS app store without dual licensing (although this is not something I'm familiar with). GPL components can be embedded within apps though I think.

Grayjay is pretty much a frontend viewing and development interface for media platform plugins, and every plugin is AGPLv3 licensed. Someone could make a Purplejay or a Greenjay alternative frontend implementation for them and there'd probably be no issue.

Having fewer SA & FOSS apps that take the place of several closed source apps is great: Newpipe (or my preferred fork, Tubular) handles soundcloud, youtube, and bandcamp. Grayjay handles patreon and nebula. It also doesn't hurt to have multiple apps capable of playing YouTube in the event that they break one app with some new change, as NewPipe, LibreTube, Grayjay's plugin and yt-dlp all use different extractors AFAIK

programmer_belch ,
@programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I use pass for saving passwords to syncronize the repos in my phone and computer and libredirect to watch youtube.

A_N_O_N ,

Obtainium doesn't even come close to fdroid . like it isn't even a question bruh completely different things as one is just a tool to make updates easy the other is a high privacy and security app store with really good policy, security and privacy check etc.

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

I wasn't comparing the two but you go ahead and do you, I prefer finding apps on my own and just getting them direct from the devs. Damn people are defensive as fuck around here, shit.

proceduralnightshade ,

One reason I'm thankful for Obtainium is because "OAuth was not approved by Google, etc for the F-Droid build" of Fair Email, and unfortunately, that's still important for me.
Obtainium is able to download from the official F-droid repo too.

Navarian ,
@Navarian@lemm.ee avatar

Hey what are all of the logos there? I know almost all of them but I'm unsure on a few.

andrew1412 OP ,
@andrew1412@lemmy.sdf.org avatar
  • GrapheneOS
  • Newpipe
  • MPV
  • Signal
  • Librewolf
  • KeePassXC
  • Aurora Store
  • FreeTube
  • Fdroid
  • Linux
Navarian ,
@Navarian@lemm.ee avatar

Appreciate you taking the time, I've got some research to do!

piracysails ,

Try the mullvad browser as well, it's scoring amazingly in fingerprinting tests.

hydroptic ,

Is it yet another Chromium fork?

edit: it's not! It's Firefox, yay. Might actually give it a shot because why not, I've already got a Mullvad VPN subscription

piracysails ,

Make sure to set the DNS over HTTPS on default since you use mullvad. :)

You can also use Leta, which proxies google search results through mullvad.

This setup is great.

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