urist ,
@urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’m just going to come out and say it: this joke is old and the comic is gross.

A woman is literally objectified here. That’s the punch line. He wants to use this woman like he used an object. In the movie he did not fuck the volley ball so the humor is supposed to be from the shock.

Please don’t explain to me how she’s a prostitute. You can see in the comic she’s surprised/unhappy. Sex workers deserve respect. This comic feels like punching down.

If you type me a book about how I’m wrong, I’m not going to respond. I can already see this has 500+ upvotes, my opinion is unpopular I know.

creditCrazy ,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

Do you like get offended when a WW2 movie has Nazis in it. I'm not even saying your wrong I'm just wondering why you find disgusting acts being the butt of a joke a bad thing.

urist , (edited )
@urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

No, because the movie is about WW2. Nazis are part of the setting.

This is a "joke", on my feed. There is no other content here. Tom Hanks was not cruel to women in the movie.

Unless you are implying that by viewing Lemmy I should get used to casual objectification of women for basic and old jokes, then I suppose that's a great point, Lemmy is very much like that.

Edit: A better comparison is a racist joke. Even if the "butt" of the joke is "haha that guy is racist", I don't want the N word showing up on my feed, either.

chumbalumber ,

While I agree with you that the actions of the man are horrible, I fundamentally disagree with your interpretation.

I do not think that this woman is the butt of the joke in any way; the comic is not punching at her. In fact, I'd argue if anything she is the person we are meant to identify with and cringe with. Her perspective is the one we follow throughout the comic; her slow realisation is one we the audience follow.

The butt of the joke is the man, and how he is unable to let go of his attachment to Wilson, the volleyball, after his time on the island.

I do not think it is morally objectionable to laugh at this comic, and I do not think the comic itself is morally objectionable, and further I think it completely lacks nuance to condemn art (even webcomics) just because it features characters who are morally objectionable.

urist ,
@urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I totally understand all of this about the joke. I understand Tom Hank's character is meant to be the villain.

The author drew this. He thought the world needed it. The objectification of woman is part of the punchline. This is why it's punching down: The author used the objectification of woman (a real problem that woman experience in their life) to serve the punchline. It makes no real critique of the male character here, it simply presents him and his actions. Can you have bad characters in a non-problematic comic? Yes. Is this happening here? I'd argue no, because a misogynist can just as easily laugh at this comic for misogynist reasons.

I'm just pointing out the comic is gross. If you found it funny I don't think you're a bad person. I just don't think it deserves to be here without someone complaining (which I am doing).

AVincentInSpace ,

He was on that island so long he started to think of the volleyball as a person, warping his perception of what a person should look like. Plenty of people hire prostitutes because they want to feel like they're with someone they can't be with anymore. This is no different.

urist ,
@urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

She looks like she wasn’t told this was part of their appointment. In fact, she looks unhappy about it. No context is explained to her and we don’t know if she would have agreed to meet him if he had asked before hand.

In this comic, she is being used. If you think this is OK just because she is being paid for sex, this is one of the things I don’t like about this comic. Sex workers share their body with other people, safety and consent are extremely important. Sex workers deserve basic human respect, which is not shown here

Doubleohdonut ,

What makes you think she's a sex worker and not, say, a FWB?

urist ,
@urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Can you explain the first panel, then?

kandoh ,

2009, this comic is older than some of the commenter's in here

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