Torvum ,

Pretty bad doomerism takes here.

Rozauhtuno ,
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Who's "we", exactly?

silence7 OP Mod ,
anon6789 ,

I feel it's time for people that care to start moving on the the acceptance phase of our future. Whether that is beginning to accept austerity in what we eat/wear/do and wait for the collective "we" to join us when they need to adapt more rapidly than we chose to, or if we give in and join the "it's already too late, let it burn" side.

I try to stay positive, because I've always tried to conserve and be responsible, so it isn't too bad, but I feel bad for the next generation or 2 at least. They asked for this even less than we did. But I feel the sooner we get on acting like this is a done deal the better, because most people aren't going to care until they're hurting.

xapr ,

I feel it’s time for people that care to start moving on the the acceptance phase of our future.

I've recently started to feel this way as well. One need not look any further than this thread itself to see that we're fucked. The discussion here is a perfect example of how we seem to be frozen in some sort of complex "prisoner's dilemma" between the public, the media, the politicians, the industry, etc. All this finger-pointing going around, when the reality is that most people AND (especially) most companies in the entire developed/industrialized world shares a large part of the blame for this, and because of the mentality (human nature) and manipulations (capitalist nature) at play, nothing will be done in time before our species starts to be completely decimated.

I've been recommending this article to people who seem to share this realization, because it not only describes what we're thinking, but it also provides some resources to help us process this.

Edit: At the same time, I still would like to fight like hell to change our course. But I just don't want to fight alone, and I fear that that's what it would mostly feel like. Alone, or very, very few people by my side.

WilliamTheWicked ,

I'm only in my thirties. I don't really think I had like..... A huge hand in all this.

Bipta ,

Well it can't be the billionaires or the boomers, so it must be your fault.

This is what late stage capitalists actually believe

Syl ,
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We should still try to do something, because it can become worse. So it's still an actual problem to make other people believe it's a thing...

Xariphon ,

That's an odd way to spell "what the insatiable greed of like seven corporations has done to us."

CleverNameAndNumbers ,

I find articles like this so frustrating. It feels like it is aimed at being a wake-up call to the reader, but at the same time offers no solutions, no advice and still lays the blame at the feet of the average person for not doing enough. "What we have done to ourselves" is not advocate enough I guess?

Perhaps I'm not the target audience for the article. I grew up in an environmentally conscious home we'll before it was trendy and have been worried about climate change for as long as I can remember. It's hard to see an article like this as anything other than an effort to drive traffic...

I'd be happy to hear what others got out of the article if it was more positive than my read of it.

nottelling ,

Climate despair is the new climate denial, and these doomer editorials are oil industry propaganda pivoting.

If we can't do anything about it then nothing has to change and rich people keep getting everything they want.

PeddlingAmbiguity ,

I'm honestly super sick of this take. I keep seeing people say that the oil industry is responsible for doomers, and it's as bad as climate denial.

Is it though? Of all the people I know, the only ones that take the situation at all seriously are the ones that actually truly believe we are in serious trouble. Only those people are voting primarly based on climate issues, taking part in protests, or making changes to lifestyle. The vast majority of people don't actually believe we are in serious trouble. The vast majority of media is still feeding us the line that things are basically going to be fine with some incremental changes.

Oil companies are advocating for market solutions to the problem and continuing the status quo as long as possible. The idea they are trying to cause the greater population to actually believe they are doomed is insane. A population that actually believes they are doomed might take drastic action.

nottelling ,

I dunno, I have the unfortunate experience of association with a lot of libertarian types. All of them believe we're in serious danger, all of them believe it's too late, and all of them are leaning hard into that "fuck you I got mine" mentality because it's too late for anything else.

They do nothing to help except vote libertarian or green.

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