bouh ,

You're trying to read too much into this.

When the state doesn't work for enough people anymore, it collapses into fascism. It always does. Unless it collapses to foreign forces of course.

Accelerationism at this point is merely an argument for liberals to convince people who are not fascists to support their liberalism as a lesser danger.

It won't work. Liberalism will have to do something, not the people who don't believe the bullshit anymore. And interestingly, throughout history, liberals always choose fascism over anything else that would remove them some power.

So don't pretend it's up to the leftists to choose. You, the liberals, did this to the world. Time to open your eyes.

Liberalism is responsible for this fascist doom, not the left. That's not only true for the US. That's also true for all of Europe. Liberals vanquished the left. Now is the time to fight fascism. That's what you earned. The left will fight. Will the liberals do it?

TotallynotJessica ,
@TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world avatar

Accelerationism at this point is merely an argument for liberals to convince people who are not fascists to support their liberalism as a lesser danger.

You make me mad. You make me mad because you've deluded yourself into believing fatalistic death cult BS, willing to drag other people down with you. Liberals might be deluded and wrong, but you're honestly worse. Liberals are more open minded than you, more hopeful than you, and believe in building a popular coalition. I don't care if you recognize capitalism is bad, you're not helping anyone do anything about it.

"Eat shit and die" is what I'm hearing from your empty justifications for inaction. I've barely started living my life, and you're saying "it just needs to end. Sorry. Nothing to be done." I like my life, unlike you apparently, so I'm going to reject your ideas emphatically.

Fuck your opinion. Just like fascist dribble, it deserves no respect.

xor ,

every time i see a "leftist" talk about not voting for biden, and thus supporting trump...

humorlessrepost ,

Agreed in the general election.

Strong disagree for primaries.

regul ,

If Biden wanted my vote he could simply stop supporting genocide. Really quite a low bar for him to clear.

There's "holding your nose" and there's voting for someone actively aiding a genocide.

Gormadt OP ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

And I'm sure letting trump have an easier time getting elected will make things so much better.

I would recommend talking to your local representatives about the current situation and how important it is to you and expressing how you may support other people running against them if they don't support a ceasefire.

Local elections are really important.

xor ,

there's "administration aiding a genocide, but also doing so because they're being lied to by israel, who also has a massive propaganda campaign to manipulate americans into supporting them..."

versus

Project 2025 and their plans of a fascist dictatorship right here, complete with a genocide of trans people and hispanics... and muslims... AND a continuation of supporting israel...
oh and aiding russians commiting genocide in ukraine.

bruh

voting trump in won't save palestine, and it'll make it soo so much worse

abbadon420 ,

I'm sorry, it's probably considered some sort of a smug European truism by now, but I have to say it. There is no left in the US two-party system. It's right or center-right, that's the choices you have, a giant douche or a turd sandwich.

xor ,

used to be... now it's fascism vs. center-right

LallyLuckFarm ,
@LallyLuckFarm@beehaw.org avatar

Good luck getting the raccoon smell out of the gatehouse

Gormadt OP ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I've literally had multiple relatives tell me to my face how they're giddy with excitement for the day they get the order to march through the streets and kill people like me, a queer lefty.

I'd prefer if we didn't let that happen here.

abbadon420 ,

You know, blood is thicker than water, that means that you can amputate blood.

Gormadt OP ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

There's many reasons I call them relatives and not family

You can choose your family (and I have), can't choose your relatives though

But you don't have to associate with your relatives unless you want to

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