decivex

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TIL about Roko's Basilisk, a thought experiment considered by some to be an "information hazard" - a concept or idea that can cause you harm by you simply knowing/understanding it ( en.wikipedia.org )

Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment which states that an otherwise benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI) in the future would be incentivized to create a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development, in order to...

decivex ,

Thanks! I just won the game!

decivex ,

Make your own rules.

decivex ,

I think they weren't asking for an idea that would actually make the world a better place but rather one that somebody on some level believes would make the world a better place. Hence it still being a stupid idea.

I Will Fucking Piledrive You If You Mention AI Again — Ludicity ( ludic.mataroa.blog )

How stupid do you have to be to believe that only 8% of companies have seen failed AI projects? We can't manage this consistently with CRUD apps and people think that this number isn't laughable? Some companies have seen benefits during the LLM craze, but not 92% of them. 34% of companies report that generative AI specifically...

decivex ,

It's not a paper, it's a stream-of-consciousness style blog post.

decivex ,

Ah yes, newsweek. Truly a paragon of human rights advocacy.

decivex ,

Pretty sure 5 is Artemis Fowl.

decivex ,

That's... not what moving the goalposts means.

decivex ,

Moving the goalposts means changing the rules of a debate while having it. They said they'd agree with them being a Nazi if there was evidence beyond the number 88 being on the license plate, someone else pointed out what the "BOOG" meant, they accepted that the person who owns the car is a Nazi. No goalposts moved.

decivex ,

No, but it is primarily a white supremacists movement and the '88' on the license plate kinda takes away all doubt.

decivex , (edited )

Yes, I simplified for the sake of brevity. But you're reading a lot into their comments that just isn't there. Yes they were running interference for a nazi (and not making a particularly compelling case) but there's nothing to indicate it was intentional. (It's not a strawman argument either btw, unless you're claiming they intentionally ignored the boogaloo reference rather than just not knowing about them.)

Edit: Also I don't think not making assumptions about someone's motivations is the same thing as 'putting faith' in them.

decivex ,

No, you're not basing your assumptions on how genuine someone is being, you're basing your assumptions on your assumptions of how genuine they're being.

Dismissing someone's arguments by establishing they're acting in bad faith is a valid rhetorical tactic but it doesn't work if you can't establish that. And labeling their argument as something it isn't doesn't help with that.

Addressing someone's presumed ignorance is helpful because you're also providing information for onlookers, pointing out the harmful effects of what someone's saying (like potentially muddying the waters when it comes to recognizing dog whistles) is constructive, attacking anyone who may be acting in bad faith but could just as easily just be ignorant is just a waste of your energy.

I'm not particularly interested in defending the person you replied to, I don't think they made a good case either. I just want people to be a bit more discerning with the terms they use. (And I have a compulsive need to correct people which I'm aware is really annoying.)

decivex ,

If you're dead set on assigning a name to it I'd say they're making an irrelevant conclusion, the basic facts are correct but they do not apply to the situation at hand.

decivex ,

Throwing out emergentism because some linear algebra failed to replicate it is a pretty bad take.

decivex , (edited )

Don't worry, I'm sure your open hostility towards disengaged leftists will get them to vote again.

Disclaimer: would vote for Biden if I were American.

Edit: Not sure why I thought kicking a hornet's nest would go over well lol.

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