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cqst ,

Maybe political repression and the mass killing of protestors and the internment of ethnic minorities has very little to do with a countries mode of production. Maybe you guys can advocate for an alternative mode of production without defending genocide and using the military to crack down on protests? And maybe liberals can do the same when Western Capitalist Countries do it?

please... :(

cqst ,

Modern Republicans started the War In Iraq, War in Afghanistan and consistently push for war with Iran. Most major US Interventions that people dislike happened under Republican presidents, Panama, Grenada, Gulf War 1 & 2, Afghanistan, etc.. but most of these happened with Democratic support.

What I'm trying to say is, your gonna get bombed regardless, but with Republicans those bombs are more likely to be nukes. You should probably just turn off the TV and hope for the best rather than rooting for any side.

cqst ,

I think you should engage in better political analysis than saying that Republicans start more wars because Democrats are the ones who started WW2 and The Mexican-American war. I just don't really see the value in that. You should instead argue that modern wars, while usually started by Republicans, tended to have large political consensus on both the Democratic and Republican sides.

cqst ,

It's more like Trump and Bush bomb people but they keep it a secret. Obama moved the drone program out of the CIAs purview and that is part of the reason that we now know how large the extent of its operation is.

cqst ,

All modern political parties in liberal democracies are fine with state violence on college protestors. It's kind of the nature of having a state that exercises police power. There is no one arguing against that.

cqst ,

Please explain your alternative to liberal democracy that "pushes the hole-drillers overboard". I'm happy to hear how it's different from fascism. This is the price we pay for living for living in a liberal democracy that allows dissent.

cqst ,

Well I would be happy to hear your alternative. I'm ideology shopping right now actually. But personally, I think the interests of capital should be represented in any system and that doesn't make it not democratic for me.

cqst ,

It's uh, from the link I was replying to. By start, it really means choose to engage in. I don't think the US started WW2 but a democrat is who got us involved in it.

cqst ,

No I don't. I was never talking about whether US involvement in WW2 was justified or not?

cqst ,

In the war of rhetoric, people like to use terms to try and bias you to their side.

liberal actually just means "free" and so there are many types of liberalism:
social liberalism
economic liberalism (as in free market economics)
political liberalism
etc...

In the USA liberals tend to be highly socially liberal and highly political liberal. Social liberalism tends to be associated with the political left, and when using liberal as a pejorative, it's usually meant to claim that the opponent is "too socially liberal."

US liberals also tend to be associated with the creation and maintaing of a welfare state which is commonly seen as being a left wing concept.

In the US, there is also a large history of debate between what the size and scope of government should be, and how the government should be run. This debate can somewhat be characterized as "liberal democracy vs populism", i.e good governance based on institutions rules and ideas versus well, populism, a decent example is Donald Trumps rhetoric about "draining the swamp." US liberals tend to be associated with institutionalism and supposed "good governance", and populism is commonly seen more as a right wing ideal, so in this area US liberals are considered on the political left as well.

cqst ,

US democrats are the largest and most successful left party in the world. Our large two party system obfuscates the underlying factionalism within the political parties (progressive cacucus, justice democrats, blue dogs, New Democrat Caucus) kind of reveals this inherent disagreement within our political parties, where members of the progressive caucus and justice democrats can be pretty clearly seen as on the political left.

In the US, social liberalism and political freedom is generally much more popular, as compared to Europe, and seen as being associated with the political left. There is no major socialist political group in the United States, and usually people who claim that there is "no left wing party in the US" want an actual Socialist party, but there are very few examples of successful socialist parties in Western Democracies and tend to be consigned to either being permanent opposition, or forcing themselves to liberalize to the point of not being socialist anymore (think SPD in Germany and Labour in the UK).

I am thankful that the US democrats focus so strongly on issues of social liberalism, think, immigration, abortion, LGBTQ rights, where in Europe these issues are much more controversial especially on issues of abortion and immigration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Europe#Abortion_laws_by_jurisdiction

cqst ,

You should vote in primaries where there are many more candidates to choose from.

cqst ,

Modern discourse in the US about democrats and being "liberal" is usually as a pejorative using the term to describe yourself is usually as a reclamation from the political right in the US and less about being an actual "liberal" as in liberal theory.

cqst ,

I would say it's a bit of both depending on the context.

cqst ,

It seems to me that Europe is largely dominated by a largely center right consensus.

cqst ,

The Dems are more like 4 political parties pretending to be just one. The dems would be split up in any other country.

have ignored doing anything to put abortion rights into law.
But also Democrats have enshrined abortion rights into law at the state level. We are a rather large country.

cqst ,

Leaving health insurance expansion to the states was because of the Supreme Court, not the Democrats. Specifically medicaid expansion with the ACA I assume you are talking about?

cqst ,

Universal Basic Income reduced child poverty by 30%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_tax_credit#United_States

By making the child tax credit non-refundable it is effectively a Negative Income Tax which is a form of UBI.

'Additional housing fixes the rent problem. UBI puts a temporary bandaid on it.
Universal healthcare fixes the medical expenses problem, strong unionization fixes the wages problem.
Don’t get me wrong I’d love the paycheck, but it isn’t the solution people think it is.'

All of your points misunderstand what the goal of UBI is. By guaranteeing that everyone earns a certain amount of income, the government is garaunteeing a basic standard of living. So a CTC of $3600 means that everyone is guaranteeed an income of at least $3600.

At first, there will be an inital raise in prices as a UBI will likely increases aggregate demand which will increase prices, but eventually prices would stabilize.

Of course, this only helps people with children right now, and there are barriers to filing a tax return in the United States. But the laws could be change to expand the credit, and it's completely possible for the United States to implement return free filing.

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