FlexibleToast

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FlexibleToast , to Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics. in Taking CO2 out of the air would be an absurdly expensive way to fight climate change

Yep, that was my original point. Trees just can't cut it. They have such a little impact they're almost not worth even discussing. Far larger gains can be found elsewhere.

FlexibleToast , to Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics. in Taking CO2 out of the air would be an absurdly expensive way to fight climate change

Yeah, like I said, a ridiculous amount of trees according to that calculator. That calculator said I'm in the top 5% and would take just over 200 trees a year. If we make the assumption that all of the top 5% also need 200 trees a year (it'smuch more likely that number sky rockets as the percentage gets lower), that's 70,000,000,000 trees a year. To put some scale to that it looks like 14m hectares were lost to deforestation in 2010 and from what I see the most generous number is about 900 trees per hectare. That's 12,600,000,000 trees. Stopping all deforestation won't even come close to covering 5% of the CO2. Again, trees never will be enough to make up for the CO2 being pumped out of the ground and into the air.

FlexibleToast , to politics in Trump Media plunges amid plan to issue more shares. It's lost $7 billion in value since its peak.

Not yet. As part of the IPO, he can't sell stock for 6 months. It being high at any point before that does nothing for him.

FlexibleToast , to politics in Trump Media plunges amid plan to issue more shares. It's lost $7 billion in value since its peak.

The lender would have to be a moron to offer that loan.

FlexibleToast , to Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics. in Taking CO2 out of the air would be an absurdly expensive way to fight climate change

"A bit". Do you realize the sheer number of trees you would have to plant to offset our carbon? And then, eventually, those trees die and the carbon is reintroduced. Trees never have been and never will be the answer to CO2 that was previously sequestered underground over millenia.

FlexibleToast , to Political Memes in Please, for the love of God, VOTE!

That's not at all what I said. There are people who are strictly single issue because that one issue matters more to them than anything else. Telling them to look at other issues doesn't solve their problem. They're more likely to look at other candidates.

FlexibleToast , (edited ) to Political Memes in Please, for the love of God, VOTE!

but you think that shouldn’t count because you know what every voter thinks

Do you even read what I write? I didn't say that either.

you expect him to lose

I didn't say that either.

You are certainly not saying anything good about Biden and in a thread full of “BuT HiLlArY ChEaTeD!” You def seem eager to shit all over Biden and how stupid the dnc is to run him

You are projecting a lot of insecurities on me that I haven't said.

I’m not making a straw man out of you not making any point other than associating negative shit to Biden and his party, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Except I haven't done that either.

you also feel compelled to shout is the main reason dems would lose

I haven't said that either.

What about this are you not getting? I have only said that IF Biden loses it is not the fault of the voters it is the fault of the party, this includes the DNC and the primary voters, for choosing a candidate that wasn't good enough. This in no way applies only to Biden. It in fact applies to all candidates that have ever run. It is not the job of the voters to vote for who a party, any party, wants them to vote for. It is the job of the party to earn the vote of the voters.

FlexibleToast , to Political Memes in Please, for the love of God, VOTE!

he literally told those people to go home

Just like the mob boss literally said, he's worried about the safety of your family. Nobody with any sense is buying that BS.

FlexibleToast , to Political Memes in Please, for the love of God, VOTE!

I don't think you replied to the right person. I would argue against any of this. In fact I brought up points that support what you're saying here.

FlexibleToast , to Political Memes in Please, for the love of God, VOTE!

EXCEPT THEY DID AND HE ALREADY BEAT TRUMP ONCE

And what does that have to do with this election? Biden won when voters were fed up with Trump's poor handling of COVID-19. Those were very different times.

you are painting the whole party as bad

Except I'm not.

you’re constantly saying “dem party is bad, it’s not the voters fault”

Again, I'm not saying that.

trying very hard to paint a picture of how bad Biden is

Again I'm not

Like I said it’s hard to tell you apart from the guy saying don’t vote.

Because you're not reading what I've written and have built some weird strawman in place of it. I have very clearly said that I will vote for Biden, but if Biden loses it is the party's fault for not having a good enough candidate. Pay attention to the words in that last sentence, specifically the if. I have not said he will lose or that I want him to lose.

FlexibleToast , to Political Memes in Please, for the love of God, VOTE!

Yes, but also no. It has always been pumped up as the most important election ever, but this time we literally have someone in the ballot that incited an insurrection and says they will be a dictator on day one. It's like the boy who cried wolf and this time there is actually a wolf.

FlexibleToast , to Political Memes in Please, for the love of God, VOTE!

and how the DNC is everyone’s real problem

I didn't say that either. I've simply said that if Biden loses, it's not the fault of the voters, but it's the fault of the party and the candidate for not earning enough voters to win.

FlexibleToast , to Political Memes in Please, for the love of God, VOTE!

folks you refuse to vote for?

I never said that... I've said the opposite. Now you're arguing against points I never said or made.

FlexibleToast , to Political Memes in Please, for the love of God, VOTE!

it sounds like we’re in exact alignment with each other on this topic and i’m wondering what your response is to the inevitable finger pointing at leftist from liberals after the election.

That's what I've been talking about in this thread. It's up to the party to look inward and realize why they failed and field a better candidate. If they want to point to the finger else where they're just going to pick more losing candidates.

i’d like to hear your thoughts on the group think talking point that a protest vote against biden is a vote for trump.

It's a cop out. You vote for things. If you vote for say a third party then it's exactly that, you voted for a third party you didn't vote for Trump. It's up to the party to win your votes.

FlexibleToast , to Political Memes in Please, for the love of God, VOTE!

Eh, that's not exactly how that works. There are single issue voters. If neither side appeals to them they will likely either not vote or seek a third party candidate. That is why the Green party had any sort of relevance until the Dems started really taking climate issues more seriously with things like "the green new deal".

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