rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

As stupid and fucked up the US elections are, that doesn’t give you the right to do something objectively worse. Shit up.

Edit: I decided to not correct that typo.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

I love how all the western polling in Russia before the election shows that Putin has over 80% approval, and now all the western media acts like it's shocking that he got around that in the election. For example, here's an example from CNN just a few days ago

But Putin undoubtedly has reaped the rewards of a political landscape tilted dramatically in his favor. The Levada Center, a non-governmental polling organization, consistently reports Putin’s approval rating at over 80% – an eye-popping figure virtually unknown among Western politicians, and a substantial increase on the three-year period before the full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/europe/putin-russia-election-explainer-update-intl/index.html

Absolute clown shit.

AFC1886VCC ,

I don't think anyone is acting like it's shocking. On the contrary, it's exactly what everyone expected so it's not a surprise. After all, he's been Russia's President for 21 of the past 25 years.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

The whole context for this thread is a BBC article throwing shade on the Russian elections.

DaTingGoBrrr ,

It's not hard to get the majority of votes when the real opposition is in jail or dead

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

"election"

TheAnonymouseJoker ,

Biden and Trump having <40% approval rates... Trudeau, Sunak, Macron, Merkel and various others have similar situation. Hell yeah fake white democrazy!!!

naturalgasbad OP ,

The only difference between the Russian and US system is that instead of having one big party whose interests are entirely separated from the public and which completely crushes any opposition parties, we have two big parties whose interests are entirely separated from the public and which completely crush all opposition parties.

A sham democracy if there ever was one, but that's because the purpose of indirect democracy is less to decide on policy and more to select a strongman leader that's most appealing.

The Russian election was "rigged" in that there was only controlled opposition... But this is also not an inherently unique feature. When was the last time a US President was neither Democrat nor Republican?

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

The US needs ranked choice voting badly, but to say the only difference between the US and Russia is the two party system is just straight up incorrect. Opposition leaders and dissidents do not get regularly assassinated by the government in the US for starters.

freagle ,

That's because none of the opposition leaders are actually threats. They killed plenty of opposition leaders while your parents were alive, though. Martin and Malcom are the two most obvious ones.

But before that, when there was a labor movement, lots of people got killed for being on the wrong side of power.

And finally, the USA doesn't have a USA out there funding and inculcating opposition leaders, connecting them with spies and mercenaries, and building movements to create a coup.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

while your parents were alive

If you’re making assumptions about the aliveness of someone’s family, please don’t.

naturalgasbad OP ,

What opposition leaders? What dissidents?

Two of the top university presidents in the country were taken down after daring to question the common narrative on the conflict in Gaza.

A whistleblower for a government defence contractor was just assassinated in the middle of legal proceedings against that defence contractor.

Whistleblowers are hunted after: Assange is struggling to avoid extradition and Snowden is stuck in Russia after being pressured to leave everywhere else.

Meanwhile, even legitimate presidential candidates like Sanders are given every disadvantage, most notably in terms of (a lack of) funding and superdelegate votes in primaries.

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

What opposition leaders? What dissidents?

I can't take you seriously at this point, we have protests here regularly and people speak out against the government like it's a hobby. To imply otherwise is farcical to say the least.

naturalgasbad OP ,

To the same extent this is true in both Russia and China, yes. Yet, what are their impacts on policy?

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

To the same extent this is true in both Russia and China, yes.

No.

Not even close.

Neither of those countries have constitutionally protected free speech and they both regularly disappear their people, even in other countries.

freagle ,

Said unironically despite the USA having euphemisms like "extraordinary rendition" and "black sites", within days of a whistleblower being found unalived, while the USA seeks extradition of Assange and can't guarantee they won't kill him, while Manning rots in a cell and Snowden is living in exile.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Breaks Community Rules

It seems there’s an unspoken community rule against Un-American Activities fedposting

Omega_Haxors ,

I genuinely don't understand why Americans feel the need to the bidding of their fascist overlords.... They get literally nothing out of it.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,

There are no two parties in USA. Both fund genocide and foreign interventions and unanimously agree on stuff like Patriot Act, no socialist healthcare, no welfare, no college funds, and other topics that favour citizens.

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