postmateDumbass ,

Pretty sure this existed on desktop firefox somewhere around 2005.

Neon ,

It did

mellowheat ,

They should just checkout the code from 2005 and copy paste it in.

Bitflip ,

19 plugin authors looking for a new project now

sgibson5150 ,
@sgibson5150@slrpnk.net avatar

🎶You put the feature in, you take the feature out, you put the feature in and shake it all about. 🎶

I've been using the Panorama Tab Groups add-on for years, which (as I recall) is pretty similar to the native stuff they inexplicably removed back in the day. It's currently unmaintained and a little janky in spots but perfectly usable.

gamermanh ,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

So how is that different from their official addon?

Multi-Account Containers by Firefox

TrickDacy ,

It's nothing like that. The extension you linked is about maintaining separate browser histories and cookie sets, whereas what this post is about is just a new way to organize and manage tabs themselves.

TheControlled ,

Opera has had this for sooooo long

TrickDacy ,

And is also Chinese spyware

TheControlled ,

You're Chinese spyware

TrickDacy ,

Hey, hey, hey. I'm not Opera.

prograhammingdev ,

Finally. Have made the switch over to Firefox a few months ago and this almost made me switch back. I swap context a lot at work / home so being able to group (and minimize said group) tabs helps a lot.

deafboy ,
@deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

Firefox has profiles, so you can further separate your work browsing from personal browsing. Each profile acts like a separate instance with it's own history, bookmarks, addons, everything...

onion ,

Is there a button to switch profiles?

micka190 ,

No, and everyone keeps recommending extensions and hacky workarounds. Wish Mozilla would gets its head out of its ass and just add a damn button that runs the firefox -p [profile] command in the browser itself so we wouldn't need to use keep a desktop shortcut instead.

PlexSheep ,

about:profiles exists too, but isn't really a lot better.

perishthethought ,

I just leave that pinned / open all the time. Easy peasy.

numbermess ,
@numbermess@kbin.social avatar

The Multi-Account Containers extension is great for this. Each container keeps its own context, so you can be logged in to the same service twice (or more) in tabs in one window. Can set it up so that some sites will always use a certain container, or that sites in a container will always use a proxy. That is EXTREMELY useful to me.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/

TrickDacy ,

They said nothing about that functionality, but yes it is nice for a completely different use case.

captain_oni ,

Multi-account containers + tab groups would make Firefox the perfect browser for me, and I wouldn't be able to use anything else.

lawrence ,

Multi-account containers are almost indispensable for developers. As for tab groups, I am currently using an add-on to manage them, but having a native feature would be very cool.

Pantherina ,

SimpleTabGroups and the ability to place pinned addons in any area of the browser UI already gives you that

https://tux.social/@Rhababerbarbar/112077769187609417

Fishytricks ,

I tried using SimpleTabGroups and I didn’t understand how to use it. Perhaps i’m coming from using Safari instead. Regardless, firefox is a very good browser and i’m using it on my PC!

Pantherina ,

You have the extension button, a tab context menu (right clicking on a tab) and thats it.

The extension can do a lot, but basically you go to the extension icon in the extension area and create groups, you click on the group and all other tabs are hidden away. Then you open tabs here, you can right click on a tab to move between groups and also set the tabs favicon (the small icon) as the tab group icon.

You click in the menu on another group and the current tabs are hidden and you move there.

It can also work with container tabs (isolated cookies) so allow to use multiple accounts, and I think the hidden tabs are frozen, taking less RAM and CPU

Zink ,
@Zink@pawb.social avatar

I never really found a use for this. Do people really need so many tabs open they have to sort them?

halva ,
@halva@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

yes

bionicjoey ,

Just did a rough estimate and I have approximately 200 tabs currently open in Firefox on my work laptop.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Of those which were opened more than 1 hour ago, how many have you used in the last hour, would you suppose?

TrickDacy ,

Why? Bookmarks exist. Are you trying to make sure all your ram stays full or what?

kratoz29 ,

Bookmarks exist

Bookmarks also need a huge redesign, and not only with FF.

That is why services like Pocket and reading lists exist... Heck, I have been using Evernote as a bookmark replacement for many years (and now I need to find a replacement for it, Sadly).

TrickDacy ,

Yeah, I think you're right, but open tabs are sort of similar, they just make using your computer slower and tabs harder to find at a certain point. I say this and I have 32 GB of RAM. I find it noticeably slower if I have like 30 tabs open.

And yeah 5 characters isn't enough for me to know what that open tab is. I have watched people use tabs like that, and no one seems to actually deal with it well. It always seems to be a struggle that they just cope with. Clicking 17 times to find a tab isn't making anyone's life easier.

kratoz29 ,

And yeah 5 characters isn't enough for me to know what that open tab is. I have watched people use tabs like that, and no one seems to actually deal with it well. It always seems to be a struggle that they just cope with. Clicking 17 times to find a tab isn't making anyone's life easier.

That is only because stock FF tab management today is trash.

I don't like Chrome's too much better, but for me Safari having an integrated Simple Tab Groups feature was a must have feature.

Now with these new changes can actually help to manage this, and it seems that it won't affect FF usage at all, so one could keep using TST or Sidebery if they wanted to, for a more serious tab management.

Also, I only have 16 GBs of RAM, but I have yet to feel my MacBook Pro any slower because of FF, especially when FF is able to sleep tabs or if you restart it manually.

TrickDacy ,

I am confused by most of what you're saying.. what the acronyms are, how safari come into play (talk about an absolute trash browser)...

You do you, but I'll probably never think opening a bunch of tabs is helpful. Making it easier to do so is enabling bad behavior. I'll probably use it, and at times stress myself out because even with a nicer UI I'll be struggling to find something with 42 tabs open.

It's like keeping a messy and cluttered desk. Some people are going to do that and say they can find everything, but 9 times out of 10 if you watch them work you can tell it makes life a little more difficult, they're just coping with it because they'd rather not straighten up as often as others.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Yeah me neither.

ITT it kinda looks like people just leave tabs open as a way to remember where something is, or even as a way to remember that something needs their attention.

There are much better ways, but everyone needs to do their own thing I guess.

TrickDacy ,

Having available ram apparently is just a me-thing

TrickDacy ,

No not really a need at all, just an alternative to bookmarks imo. Having more than ~ 20 tabs open is a very inefficient way to work imo.

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