scratchandgame ,

They are better than those who cannot manage their own people.

Nonononoki ,

Already happened in the EU, you must provide your fingerprint to get an ID

piracysails ,

Yeah what the fuck is up with that?

scratchandgame ,

Yeah what the fuck is up with that?

The fuck is, if it is done by EU government it is so normal and good. But if it is done by any socialist government it show dictatorship and lack of freedom.

Are you paid by CIA?

piracysails ,

What are you talking about exactly?
Kindly disconnect from tor and lets have a chat about it...

scratchandgame ,

Already happened in the EU, you must provide your fingerprint to get an ID

Yeah what the fuck is up with that?

You responded: "Yeah what the fuck is up with that?" when someone comment about EU doing the same thing. When EU do that, it is really normal and good and people benefit? But when China, or Viet Nam do that, they are violating human rights, being against democracy, etc...?!?!?!

Again, are you paid by CIA for saying that? If not, account for your "Yeah what the fuck is up with that?".

Kindly disconnect from tor and lets have a chat about it…

I currently don't need to be anonymous, but tor is not blocked (EVEN ADOPTED BY COCCOC, A BROWSER THAT PARTICIPATED IN GOVERNMENT'S ANTI-SCAM PROJECT) and I can turn on whenever I want.

delirious_owl ,
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Biometric information on DNA and voice is collected when voluntarily provided by the people or the agency

Ugh, how is it voluntarily provided if its mandatory for everyone over the age of 14?

jacktherippah OP ,

DNA and voice is voluntary at least for now, but they will do a mandatory iris scan. Doesn't make it any better in my books. The fact that the government even wants this much biometric data is ridiculous.

scratchandgame , (edited )

I want to know what others government collect (both Europe and Asia)

And is the iris scan visible? I have just had my card, I don't saw the polices do any iris scan.

delirious_owl ,
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eID done wrong

jacktherippah OP , (edited )

That's the Vietnamese government for you. Such blatant overreach and I've seen little discourse on this issue. So many people blindly trust it because national unity/national security/patriotism or whatever. If you dare to oppose the government, they're taking you to the police station for questioning. There's basically no press freedom and internet freedom is shit as well so where the hell are people going to get differing opinions? All the articles I've read are simply parroting the government. This shit would never fly in a democracy. The writing has been on the wall for a long time. I'll be finding ways to get tf out of here

electric_nan ,

This kind of thing is happening all over. The UK is a well-known western surveillance state. Here in the US, (in my state at least) we are required to give thumbprints for a drivers license. Entering the US at many locations now entails fingerprint and facial scans. All governments will trend towards more total information/control.

nephs ,

You're doing too much western shit. Life sucks this side of the fence, too. And the numbers are not improving for most people, just the rich getting richer, and everyone else is worse than ever.

Freedom is just for the rich.

scratchandgame ,

He is actually paid by CIA to do that.

scratchandgame , (edited )

If you dare to oppose the government, they’re taking you to the police station for questioning.

And that's the same for other government. Dirty CIA propaganda.

Most are the guy who want to drive when they are drunk.

Old people know about those who oppose the government. I don't believe you live in Vietnam.

My grandma (previously, a nurse) comment about people who oppose the government: "Cái bọn ấy thì cháu đừng dây vào chúng nó làm gì. Chúng nó ăn cơm nhà nước rồi lại quay ra nói xấu nhà nước."

There’s basically no press freedom and internet freedom

We still worry day and night that young people are being pro-Western and pro-Chinese. Are you still saying that we don't have internet freedom??

See the attitude of some people on voz (Điểm báo) whenever a police rescued a little girl.

There's absolutely no free speech and free press, since free speech and free press are unrestricted speech and press, under no law, people there can say whatever they want. Even american don't even have it, they just allow people to insult other by whatever sentence. Viet Nam is more restrictive: insulting others are not allowed.

Knowledgeable person actually understand the consequence of unrestricted freedom. They are educated. Not like anyone want to comment on other government's policy without actually living in it and understand it.

About internet freedom: we already have it for years. Before 2018, anyone can set up a social media site if they want, but now they will need to register for it. That's equivalent to the business law: if you want to set up a company, you must register what your company do.

Tangent5280 ,

This sets a precedent that other countries might follow. Bad.

bionicjoey ,

Luckily there are relatively few countries that look at Vietnam as a role model.

umami_wasbi ,

Soon require your memory and thoughts to be logged as well

jacktherippah OP ,

New crime unlocked: thinking un-patriotic thoughts

Omega_Haxors , (edited )

You're throwing off huge "they're taking my slaves" energy.

scratchandgame , (edited )

You are only speaking for the CIA, which has no good intentions.

Do you live in Viet Nam? I thought foreign are mostly friendly and respect differences, but the people who live on other's land aren't. Those people are screaming for ambiguous "freedom" but blatantly violate that freedom.

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