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darq , in The GOP has a master plan to criminalize LGBTQ people
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For those of us not in the US, I think this also highlights the real need to loosen the US's stranglehold on the Internet at large. The US has disproportionate power to control content on the Internet as a whole, because so many services and so much infrastructure resides there.

This highlights the importance of building redundant services elsewhere in the world, and moving content outside the US in general. So if the US tries to remove LGBTQ+ content in some cultural crusade, you laugh at them. Make them firewall it, like China, if they don't like it.

outer_spec , in Silicon Valley’s worldview is not just an ideology; it’s a personality disorder. | Crooked Timber
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Personality disorders are stigmatized enough already, you don’t need to compare them to fucking tech bros

isaz ,

This … thank you!

spudwart , in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back

Three reminders:

The president isn't the only position of power in the US, it's just the most public and obvious one.

A vote against or withdrawn from Biden is a vote for Trump.

If Biden wins, we can try a new candidate in the next election. If Trump wins there won't be a next election.

frauddogg ,
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Boogeyman invocation, yawn

The hood doesn't live in democracy; all Trump will do is bring our conditions to your gated communities

frauddogg , in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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satanicllamaplaza ,

You forgot “poor kids are just as bright as white kids”

stolid_agnostic , in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back

I'm now convinced that a lot of this is trolling. People who say "Well I'm Muslim and it bothers me that Biden supports Israel so I won't vote for him" have to be completely out of touch with reality or are completely fake. Same thing here--not voting for Biden ensures that Trump wins, and your theoretical third-party person has no chance of doing anything except dilute the vote.

So? I'm really not buying this narrative or these polls anymore. The respondents are either morons or plants.

ShimmeringKoi ,
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Yeah, the people who don't want to vote for the fascist sending bombs to an ethnostate to kill their friends and families? They're the out of touch morons.

WetBeardHairs ,

One is a neoliberal that embraces a political philosophy where you turn a blind eye to suffering abroad for stability and prosperity at home.

The other is a wannabe dictator that repeatedly echos hitler and will lead to civil war where your neighbors, family, and yourself are put at risk of death and the destruction of your livelyhood.

One of them is more imminently dangerous to the voters who are tasked with casting votes.

TheLepidopterists ,
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He's not turning a blind eye, he's actively facilitating a genocide.

Many people are more moral than you and refuse to support anyone supporting a genocide.

WetBeardHairs ,

If there were a viable third option I would vote for them. Being moral in this situation means Trump would get elected and my family would be victims of political violence while that same apathetic blind eye turns away from us. It's a personal threat to my physical safety if Trump is elected.

Kuori ,
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right, so you care more about you and yours than millions of people in palestine. sounds about white

WetBeardHairs ,

Yes. It's not my job to stop all the wars in the world. I'm not going to sacrifice myself for that because it wouldn't make a difference.

ShimmeringKoi ,
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Motherfucker it's your job as an alleged human being to at least not actively support it

WetBeardHairs ,

Who says I give a fuck about humanity? We've shown ourselves time and time again to do the selfish thing to fuck people over. Guess what? I'm one of them. My selfish thing is "I don't want to be murdered by terrorists." There are terrorists over there and there are terrorists next door. Which one is imminently a threat to me? Not the one that is across the planet. But the second Trump gets power, he has said he will not prosecute terrorists.

satanicllamaplaza ,

You and trump got a lot in common. Hell you and Biden too. You should feel bad. Have a good day.

brain_in_a_box ,

Liberals, as ever, unable to accept that anybody might honestly disagree with them.

Paradoxvoid , in Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden, and whether they’d come back
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Ultimately this won't change unless young Democrats actually take over the party and shift the overton window back to the left.

This generally, and specifically electoral reform is the only way to get the USA out of its two-party hellhole.

satanicllamaplaza ,

The only way out of the 2 party system is to stay in the 2 party system? Math ain’t mathin.

Paradoxvoid ,
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Good luck getting any reform done within America's FPTP by going 3rd-party.

Politics is a battle of inches, and you need to walk before you can run, or else 3rd-parties are doomed to irrelevance forever.

some_guy , in California Leaves Trump On Primary Ballot Despite Requests To Disqualify Him

I'm kinda surprised, but also relieved that conservatives won't be able to point to my state and say we did what they expected. Looking forward to further disqualifications in states that aren't targets for "bias."

NovaPrime , in ‘The free ride is over’: Nikki Haley is getting her first real test of 2024
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Oh look, the media is finally remembering that she's just like all the other shit corpofascists on the stage.

Philo , in How will the average lemming, Democrat, Republican, American and non-American react when Biden loses this election?
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Wouldn't that depend on who wins?

OprahsedCreature OP ,

Does anyone genuinely believe that Biden will win at this point?

gregorum ,
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at this point, it’s genuinely unclear whether Trump will even be allowed on the ballot in enough states to win— or possibly on any ballots at all. there’s a legitimate possibility that Trump may, if fact, be disqualified from running for president at all.

MeetInPotatoes ,

I don't confidently predict anything for the upcoming election. I couldn't possibly count the amount of random shit that could happen between now and then.

Itsamelemmy , in How will the average lemming, Democrat, Republican, American and non-American react when Biden loses this election?

Is he less popular than Trump? Because while I don't think there's going to be the same voter turnout as last election, I think he can still beat Trump. And if Trump gets disqualified his chances are probably even better. I mean, I don't like Biden, and don't think he did a good enough job to vote for him again. I still will, because the GOP is a fucking disgrace.

CannotSleep420 , in How will the average lemming, Democrat, Republican, American and non-American react when Biden loses this election?
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This is assuming he doesn't drop dead from frailty before the election.

aaaaaaadjsf ,
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That could happen to both Biden and Trump lol. Both are old and unhealthy, and displaying signs of dementia. Trump almost died of COVID while president, and his blood is entirely made up of diet Coke at this point. Biden is just incoherent and constantly says things he shouldn't say, much to the dismay of his staff. Remember Blinken's reaction when Biden randomly went on an anti China rant, for no reason at all? Ruined a whole day's workblinken-pain

CrushKillDestroySwag , in How will the average lemming, Democrat, Republican, American and non-American react when Biden loses this election?

They're gonna try to prevent the certification of ballots from red states, and things are gonna get a little out of hand.

anarchoilluminati , in How will the average lemming, Democrat, Republican, American and non-American react when Biden loses this election?
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I'm going to do the same thing I did when Trump won last time: laugh at Democrats for allowing this to happen by being uselessly arrogant, anti-Left idiots.

Libs will probably once again be in denial and cry about it for months.

Right-wingers, let's just hope the most they do is gloat.

Urist ,
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Laughing while fascists rise to power is sad. Hope the US does not bring the rest of the world with them while crashing and burning.

aaaaaaadjsf ,
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Hope the US does not bring the rest of the world with them while crashing and burning.

They've been doing that since the end of the cold war... Iraq, Somalia, Haiti, the Balkans/Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Iraq (Again), Afghanistan (again), Libya, Syria, Yemen, Israel - Palestine, Ukraine. Haven't even mentioned AFRICOM.

How could it get any worse? Will the nukes start flying?

Urist ,
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How could it get any worse? Will the nukes start flying?

Yeah, maybe. Despite the US' best efforts to fuck things up, much of the people around the world has gotten it better the last hundred years.

aaaaaaadjsf ,
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Yeah that's true I guess. I just hope as the world changes, no one does anything crazy with nuclear weapons. Or balkanisation of the major world powers. That could be disastrous.

Urist ,
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Also, I think nihilism in some cases actually displays privilege. Apart from being socialist, I would probably not be the prime target of fascist reactionary and nationalistic behavior. Therefore I do not think I can morally allow myself to laugh about it at all, but rather channel despair into rage and willingness to fight back.

anarchoilluminati ,
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Honestly, fuck that. It has nothing to do with privilege or nihilism.

I am a prime target of fascism and Nazism, I'm far from a nihilist but I still laugh. Dark comedy exists as a coping mechanism for a reason and the West has done it to itself. It's not entirely comedic, I am horrified of certain developments that can happen, but I'll laugh along the way.

Urist ,
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Then I was wrong to assume that privilege of you and you can disregard what I wrote. I tend to assume privilege of those I interact with because in the majority of cases it is true. Most people with privilege also are quite unaware of it. As I think it is our moral imperative to stand up for our comrades in need, I will continue to urge those with positions to act to do so and not get pacified on the expense of those that will seriously hurt from it.

anarchoilluminati ,
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It's all good, no offense taken or anything. But have a laugh sometimes too.

I think it helps me at least. It doesn't mean you take it any less seriously.

OprahsedCreature OP ,

I mean, the liberal denial has started already. Look at the number of downvotes this post has already, compared to the number of valid arguments in the comments. (12 up, 29 down; 23 comments)

It's not about making a convincing case or appealing to logic or reason, it's about liberal suppression of dissenting views to preserve a worldview that was already archaic when it was first mainstreamed in the US in order to deny ethnic, sexual, class, and religious minorities a seat at the table with the ever-present and looming cudgel of fascism as the failsafe.

anarchoilluminati ,
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It's not about making a convincing case or appealing to logic or reason, it's about liberal suppression of dissenting views to preserve a worldview that was already archaic when it was first mainstreamed in the US in order to deny ethnic, sexual, class, and religious minorities a seat at the table with the ever-present and looming cudgel of fascism as the failsafe.

Absolutely!

Although, we at Hexbear happily live under an authoritarian Communist dictatorship with a Great Firewall of our own and as such we do not see downvotes. Downvote me all you want, libs.

OprahsedCreature OP ,

One of the many things to love about the bear, comrade ✊ 🐻

aaaaaaadjsf , in How will the average lemming, Democrat, Republican, American and non-American react when Biden loses this election?
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It's impossible to know who will win at this point, Biden is historically unpopular, but his opponent will be Trump. Who is very polarising. I still don't understand how they'll allow him to run again, but that's beside the point. Bush Jr stole a whole election and no one did anything to stop it and he also was allowed to run in and win the 2004 election, so anything goes.

It all depends on what happens this year. The election media frenzy hasn't even properly started. The Democrat voter base can be very easily emotionally manipulated into voting for Biden if liberal media plays it's cards right. The Republicans and conservatives are screwed, it's Trump and no one else with the MAGA cult he's formed around himself. It's the only chance they have. All their other primary candidates are generic manufacturerd politicians. But Trump guarantees them a passionate voter base, something none of the other candidates have.

D61 , in How will the average lemming, Democrat, Republican, American and non-American react when Biden loses this election?

Same as what happened when Hillary lost to Trump.

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