HomerianSymphony ,

The only way Biden will stop genociding Gazans is if there are electoral consequences for him, and you're asking us to not give him any electoral consequences.

Censored ,

The only electoral consequences you can give him is removing him from power and putting Trump in, ensuring that Trump will be the one genociding Gazans.

frog_brawler ,

The R path needs to replace the trolley with a ton of cars, and then run everyone over (including the US).

rocci ,

Why doesn't do the more popular and morally right thing to do and simply stop shipping weapons to Isreal?

Deinonychusanti ,
delaunayisation ,

That Pakistani flag is very ironic considering how Biden organized the coup there.

Censored ,

Do you even politic?

Mastengwe ,

This really sums up things pretty well I think. On one hand there’s the democrats, trying to minimize the damage, on the other hand- there’s conservatives trying to cause as much of it as possible. And on the other hand….

Wait.

There can only be two hands!

That must mean that the third track can only exist in a suspended state of logic and should be dismissed as irrelevant.

Beaver ,
@Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

Support ranked voting with fairvote us.

RagingRobot ,

Ok but that won't happen before our next election...

teletext ,

No, but hopefully this won't be the last US election.

Mango ,

Build some rail ya lazy bums!

darth_tiktaalik ,
@darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml avatar

I'm assuming the third track being entirely disconnected and therefore not a real option is intentional.

Either way, accurate

Naxxxsfw ,

It’s the track for trains with no windows so the riders aren’t inconvenienced by the impact of their betrayal of duty as citizens. This way they can remain on their high horses and pretend both sides are the same and all that without any of that pesky and deserved shame

mycodesucks ,
@mycodesucks@lemmy.world avatar
uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

What is equivalent of derailing here?

oo1 ,

You're a "domestic terrorist" and most likely already tied down to the middle track. You might also get tied down to the top rail - it depends slightly what you yell when attack.

But if that elepant and donkey are capable of tying down all those other people, they're not going to let you derail them.

Cognitive_Dissident ,

Oh fuck this shit, rage-baiting motherfucker.

TheFriar ,

At least you haven’t been fooled into getting angry

Cognitive_Dissident ,

Fuck off

HiddenLychee ,

Fuck me this comment section is toxic

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Pakistan got the CIA coup treatment under BIden's term, so this meme is already wrong.

kaffiene ,

What coup?

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar
kaffiene ,

Needs an account.

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah mb, didn't use to ask for one.

Here's the archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20240121231505/https://theintercept.com/2023/08/09/imran-khan-pakistan-cypher-ukraine-russia/

Important because it was the original source of the transcript publication.

Other two are free access and just general overview info.

kaffiene ,

Thank you so much for the link, I really appreciate it. I guess what counts as a coup had changed over the years. Biden is obviously plotting a coup in Israel, I guess, since he's suggested that bibi would be better gone

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Tell me again when Bibi is arrested and thrown in jail and banned from the Israeli media.

wreel ,
@wreel@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The Intercept is the only publication pushing that story. Al Jazeera only references "purported" information from that very TI article so, by and large, it's unsubstantiated. Also, when that was happening Kahn was already serving a three year corruption sentence. I don't see how any of this actually substantiates your original claim.

257m ,

so how much do you glow at night?

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

The cipher was just the confirmation of what Imran Khan and his party had already alleged leading up to his removal and subsequent arrest. It was already well established that the USA was invovled via the army, which is why he was charged with several phony cases like illegal marriage and state gift sales.

If you want I can share the timeline of events, but it'll take me some time because said army nuked Pakistani media reporting so I would have to rely on 3rd party archives and crossposts of independent journalists who also got content deleted and arrested.

And I do mean nuked, they straight up banned the use of his name in any new article or broadcast, along with banning twitter and flicking the internet connection every other week to reduce info from social media.

The Wikipedia article has some decent sources, but Geo and Dawn are already considered political propaganda.

specters ,

stop the trolley, dumb fucks 😂

Moneo ,

...
The point of the trolley problem is you can't stop it.
.....

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Derailing is an option.

Entire trolley problem was created to show flaws of trolley problem.

themeatbridge ,

What?

The trolley problem is a basic philosophical thought experiment on the nature of morality. Are we responsible for circumstances beyond our control, and do we take ownership of the consequences if we intercede? Is inaction a decision itself? Does the moral relativism of reducing harm absolve us of the results borne of our choices?

Derailing is a theoretical option, but raises additional concerns. You put the passengers at risk to hopefully save people on the tracks, and you destroy the trolley which is ostensibly going somewhere for a reason. What if there is a pregnant woman in labor on the trolley, and she's on her way to the hospital? What if the detailed trolley still crushes the people on the track? Was your decision to intervene a moral one?

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

The trolley problem is a basic philosophical thought experiment on the nature of morality. Are we responsible for circumstances beyond our control, and do we take ownership of the consequences if we intercede?

Well, yes, that too. But also there is part of paper, where different additional information is provided. So paper that introduced it also in a way ridicules trolley problem. You never has complete information, and no solution is perfect in any morality.

you destroy the trolley which is ostensibly going somewhere for a reason.

I've never heard about trolley's body destruction during derailment. And Uraltransmash trolley derail a lot.

What if the detailed trolley still crushes the people on the track? Was your decision to intervene a moral one?

Back to incomplete information. Or what if trolley doesn't have enough velocity to kill anyone?

specters ,

"The whole point of my meme is that you have to support genocide"

neeeeDanke ,

If you were sitting at the controls that would be an option, but allas we are all just part of those doing a tug of (less or more) war for the switch

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

There are other options with switch.

specters ,

Blow up the trolley 👍

Brunbrun6766 ,
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

You advocate for blowing up the trolley. Okay, what have YOU done to further this idea?

oo1 ,

I think the demonic elephant already tied them to the middle track.

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