nailoC5 ,

I tried Tumbleweed and didn't like package management there either, specifically because of patterns.

I thought patterns are just meta/group packages. Do they do anything else differently?

The bigger issue is that I never have much luck updating the AUR stuff, also no-longer-available stuff (it got a bit better once with a re-install,

what issues do you have updating them? are the no-longer-available packages orphans?

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