fustigation769curtain ,

FUD wins.

It's better to be screwed over by [YOUR COUNTRY'S] ruling class than [OTHER COUNTRY'S].

Buncha tools, the lot of you.

magnetosphere ,
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I might be more in favor of this ban if it wasn’t in the hands of a bunch of stodgy, bickering, out-of-touch morons who don’t understand technology.

Ghostalmedia ,
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Everyone keeps saying “Tik Toc ban,” but this is more of a ByteDance ban. If they want to sell off or spin off the business for markets outside of China, they could 100% do that.

The product itself is not the problem.

stevedidwhat_infosec ,

This.

Everyone on hexbear is too busy echo-chambering “L liberals” to actually see this for what it is.

I’m so grateful for my frontal lobe development, without it I would’ve indulged in those conversations and lost additional brain matter trying to argue

Dran_Arcana ,

the product itself is not the problem

well hold on there partner, lets not get crazy with our sweeping claims here.

SeaJ ,

China literally does the same shit. You can open up production for sales in China but it has to be majority domestically owned.

Not saying that I agree with it but it is kind of funny to see tankies whine about this.

gAlienLifeform ,
@gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world avatar

It's also funny to see "free" market worshipping liberals explain how emulating the CCP's policies is essential to protecting our liberty

It's less funny to see the ACLU EFF and Amnesty International get ignored

SeaJ ,

Most liberals I know are not big fans of the free market...

Sarmyth ,

Free market worshiping liberals.... lol wut?

nul9o9 ,

I don't like TikTok. As much as I don't trust social media ran by US companies. I dont like the idea of one ran by a foreign adversary even more.

That said, I'd hate to see the US equivalent of the Chinese firewall come into being because of legislation like this.

Dran_Arcana ,

I think delisting it from ios and android appstores would probably be half-sufficient to kill it. Most people won't go out of their way to sideload an app or use a website. Making it so American advertising companies cannot exchange money with tiktok would probably be the other half. No money, extra effort = dead platform.

Edit: just read the draft bill, it probably deosn't even go far enough. It does the first half, but not the second half. It looks like under the bill, advertisers as businesses would still be able to interact with the platform, but the platform would only be accessible via a browser, and no US hosting/vps provider could host any of their services. Any violations would be a civil penalty of up to $500/user (presumably with the penalty of completely being cut off from us businesses if they didn't pay up).

Honestly seems more reasonable than I'd have initially given it credit. It mostly solves the "a foreign adversary could update the app to use my phone as a wiretap" or "a foreign adversary could use their legitimate business dealings to spy from within a datacenter" without actually creating a great firewall.

https://selectcommitteeontheccp.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/selectcommitteeontheccp.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/Protecting%20Americans%20From%20Foriegn%20Adversary%20Controlled%20Applications_3.5.24.pdf

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