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cross-posted from: https://fedia.io/m/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world/t/944445

This is a tweet from Ron Sullivan who says "Lake Superior hasn't wrecked anyone like this since the Edmund Fitzgerald" It is over a tweet Lake Superior saying this Lake vehemently stands with women having the right to choose and some Jerk by the name of Tom Fitton. Saying water is wet and abortion kills a human being. So then the Twitter account of Lake Superior replied Thomas, not even your first talking point is correct. Water is not wet, what water touches is wet. I'm confident I have a lot more experience in making things wet than you do.
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Illuminostro ,

Careful guys, Lake Superior will make your girl wet, and she'll love it!

Flax_vert ,

In order to show their opposition to the pro life movement, all lifeguards have been dismissed

rambling_lunatic ,

Unless it is one solitary molecule of water, the water molecules are in contact with other water molecules, making them wet.

Thcdenton ,

I've never thought about water not being wet. This troubles me.

DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

Don't listen to the siren call of Twitter, their claims are based on a flawed understanding of physical science.

It is true, water makes things wet, it is not in and of itself wet, however all bodies of water you deal with on a day to day basis are not a singular object. They are uncountable multitudes of unconnected molecules of water, touching each other in a glorious slippery puddle of co-wetness.

Water is thus wet, in liquid form. Interestingly enough, water is by definition not a liquid if it is just a lone molecule, therefore all liquid water exists in the state of mutually assured wetness.

However, some unearned pedantry is allowed to dunk on bigots. They sure as hell don't let facts stop them.

Th3D3k0y ,

Also since oil and water don't mix, oil is also not wet, nor does it make things wet.

Thcdenton ,

And yet things can be soaked with oil

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4e95c4ac-008d-46dc-901b-45a91e57d460.gif

SpaceCadet ,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

It's like ... beer isn't drunk, so water isn't wet.

sem ,

Gonna have to disagree with Lake Superior on this one...water is wet

doom_walker ,

They just ended the debate on if water is wet lol

HaveYouPaidYourDues ,

Zoolander did that 23 years ago lol

Droggelbecher ,

I wouldn't say so, and for the same reason they claim water isnt wet i claim water is wet: unless it's just a single molecule, water touches (and even clings to) water. So water is wet.

Akareth ,
  • What if you have two molecules of H2O that are below 0°C or above 100°C?
  • What if you have two molecules of some other liquid substance that are also polar like H2O?
Droggelbecher ,

I'd say that the liquid phase is implied. Nobody is arguing whether a solid is wet.

And this is just by feel, but I'd say yes. Wetness is polar liquids sticking to stuff.

No_Support_8363 ,

Apply cold water to the site of the burn

Iron_Lynx ,

Fortunately, the Lake has plenty of cold water for that guy.

No_Support_8363 ,

Yeah lol

SpaceNoodle , (edited )

Since water is touching itself, wouldn't that make it wet by that definition?

OrlandoDoom , (edited )

If something is not wet, we call it dry, still waiting for someone to tell me water is fucking dry.

I'm just talking about the wetness of water here, I support abortion rights.

Edit: most comment replies I've had on here and it's about water and if it's wet. We're so mundane.

Meron35 ,

People have been describing wine as dry for ages

OrlandoDoom ,

Also cranberry juice, which tastes like it doesn't want to be wet.

ninja ,

I've had the 'can you make water more wet?' conversation before. The answer we arrived at varies based on the definition of wet so we had to define wet first.

We concluded that wetness is usually judged by how liquid something is or how much liquid it has with it. Our liquidity was based on viscosity so it's possible to make a liquid more wet by decreasing viscosity. Viscosity can be altered by adding a different viscosity liquid to it. There are things less viscous than water so in adding them you can make water more wet. Viscosity can also be changed by changing the temperature. As temperature increases viscosity decreases until water becomes a gas and dissipates into the air. We got a bit stuck here since at this point we no longer considered the water to be wet but did think that the air was wet. There was wetness, but since the mix was more air than water the water's wetness was decreasing. We concluded there was some nebulous level of humidity that would be considered wet, but it would be wet air rather than dry water.

Then we looked at it the other way. At low temperatures the viscosity of water increases until it eventually crystalizes into a solid. As long as it stayed frozen it had none of the properties we considered wet. Completely frozen water could be considered dry.

CheezyWeezle ,

Then what about dry ice? That's frozen carbon dioxide, so it is waterless ice. It is called dry because it lacks any water. Is water ice more or less wet than dry ice?

ninja ,

The way we thought of it, while frozen it'd be the same amount of dry. It's called dry ice because it's dry after it melts.

FiskFisk33 ,

What about gases, are gases wet or dry?

You say a gas is wet if it contains water, ok what about if the gas contains mercury, is that wet? Is pure liquid mercury wet or dry?

Cornelius_Wangenheim ,

It's neither because the concept isn't applicable. It's like dividing by 0. You can string the symbols together, but they don't mean anything.

No_Change_Just_Money ,

"Most scientists define wetness as a liquid's ability to maintain contact with a solid surface, meaning that water itself is not wet, but can make other sensation. But if you define wet as 'made of liquid or moisture', as some do, then water and all other liquids can be considered wet."

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/is-water-wet
9 Nov 2023

missphant ,
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My favourite answer to this is Emergence, which was explained well in a recent kurzgesagt video.

Basically Emergence dictates that a group of things (like H2O molecules) can form something greater than the sum of itself (wetness). In the molecules wetness is not a thing, but the interaction of water with something else creates wetness. This concept cannot reasonably be boiled down to the molecular level, it only exists on this plane of existence.

gaael ,

For those who,like me, didn't get the fitzgerald reference:

SS Edmund Fitzgerald was an American Great Lakes freighter that sank in Lake Superior during a storm on November 10, 1975, with the loss of the entire crew of 29 men.

From the Wikipedia article

state_electrician ,

And here's the story as a song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuzTkGyxkYI

teejay ,

The Punch Brothers did an amazing cover, too. Source.

DogWater ,

A great fucking song too.

xyguy ,

And a reference for the Seinfeld fans out there.

pyre ,

good job, lake. this is why you're superior.

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