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  • FloydyStu ,
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    @fabio @israel @palestine when, as a Zionist jew, you create the misery and suffering of the Holocaust onto another people, simply because of their race, you yourself stop being Jewish and become a nazi.

    It really is that simple.

    ecsd ,
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    @fabio @israel @palestine

    Sorry, Fabio, but

    <a pariah State in the same bracket as Russia and North Korea - all these nations share the same need for continuous aggression and for rewriting history in order to justify their existence and their present-day violence>

    this is CIA BULLSHIT being parroted directly from mainstream media.

    Neither RU nor NK have made incursions to GAIN TERRITORY. If you open your mouth to say "but Ukraine" then I remind you MINSK: had the West HONORED MINSK, Ukraine would be INTACT by now, but for CRIMEA which VOTED to secede to stop being BOMBED by Ukraine. And what is the LONG LIST OF COUNTRIES NK has attacked? SHOW ME THE """CONTINUOUS AGGRESSION"""???

    You aren't even THINKING about these words and phrases -- you're just repeating them mindlessly.

    It's safe to say that ISRAEL'S RAPACITY IS MATCHED //ONLY// BY THAT OF THE UNITED STATES.

    ==> The country YOU were thinking of being all militaristic and arrogant IS THE UNITED STATES. See how they've stirred your brains?

    fabio OP ,
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    @ecsd @israel @palestine I'm the last person on earth who would blindly repeat US propaganda. But the same principles apply to everyone, period.

    By invading Ukraine, trying to topple its elected government and denying its right to existence, Russia has violated the right to self-determination of an independent country. No crime in the world is worse than that. No prior agreement about outdated "spheres of influence" justifies the aggression. Ukrainians have the right to do whatever the fuck they please with their own country, their own alliances and their own governments, and in no circumstances any of their actions should be used to justify an unprovoked military invasion.

    Russia deserves to be treated as a pariah State because of that, at least until Putin is in power/alive (which most likely mean the same thing). And, like all pariah States, it is now fully bent on rewriting history in order to push its propaganda and justify its horrible actions (the roots of the Rus people that come from Kyiv, the appeal to a union among Slavic people with Moscow at its head, not to mention all the shameful lies and dehumanization attempts about drug-addict and Nazis who rule Ukraine).

    What Russia is doing is pure fascist imperialist playbook, page by page, with no diversions. I've seen it enough times to recognize it.

    And I agree, the US have also their big share of guilt in making the world an awful place, and they should have definitely been called more accountable for that. But let's not fall into the whataboutist trap - ethnic violence, imperialist war and external attempts of overthrowing elected governments are always bad, no matter where they come from.

    ecsd ,
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    @fabio @israel @palestine

    <A spokesman for the Israel Embassy told The Straits Times that the post had been put up without the necessary approvals and the person responsible has been punished. >

    {laughs} More lies. 1. They put it up deliberately in full hopes it would have the propaganda impact they thought it would. 2. They pretended it was some errant fool who did it, when they were outed. 3. They punished no-one. They just got angry the latest bullshit failed. 4. Note no corrected STATEMENT was issued. For sure not WE WERE LYING, oh no.

    fabio OP ,
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    @ecsd @israel @palestine of course anyone who has followed Israeli politics in the past two decades know that this was no "extremist outlier".

    The arguments made in that post (that there is no archaeological/historical/genetic evidence of people other than Jews who settled in that area either before David or after the destruction of the second temple) are exactly the same I've heard many times by the most purist supporters of the Zionist cause, and they are even amplified by many government members (Ben-Gvir and his nativist/fascist friends in first line).

    The only reason why they've taken down that post was not to piss off a potentially useful diplomatic mediator like Singapore. Hadn't the local government shown outrage at the content, I'm pretty sure that the post would still be there.

    ecsd ,
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    @fabio @israel @palestine

    All anyone needs do is watch again the clip where Alexei Sayle says this:

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