Alright folks. Let's take a breather. Locking this post. I've had more reports on this post than we've ever had in the subs history.
Things can get heated, but remember we're all here for the love of gardening. Text can be misunderstood with the lack of nonverbal cues. Going forward let's give each other the benefit of the doubt.
Outdoor cats (any animal) at wild are illegal outdoors in my city, so that’s more the owners issue here, but great PSA, we will definitely have to be careful if we cut them and bring them in the house though, we have indoor cats. I always try to wash my hands after handling the bulbs/blooms.
Edit, the person has reiterated their stance multiple times while claiming their point is about the plant inside….
To quote another comment of theirs.
I guess I was trying to point that if you care about the cats in your neighborhood maybe you forego the pretty flower.
Quit telling people what to plant in their yards dude, if you can’t control your animals that’s on you, if you ask your neighbor to not plant a flower because your cat constantly escapes, they would laugh at you. This is exactly what you did in your comment and reiterated multiple times. It wasn’t about it being inside.
I would argue you shouldn't even bring them inside. The amounts necessary for toxicity are insanely low..like a bit of pollen, a small clipping of the leaves or stems, a small puddle of water left behind from rinsing; all of these are potentially toxic to your kitties.
Also side note, illegal or not, cats get out / get lost. Its a bit callous to hold the cats in your neighborhood up to standards of the "law" and careless owners / accidental runaways.
I think that’s a little alarmist to be honest, not all cats are allergic to Lilies, so to just blanket ban them is over the top, train your pets as well, it is a thing.
I have never had a single one of my cats get out in 2 decades, if you want to be careless that’s your fault, the general public isn’t going to go out of their to avoid planting stuff so muffins you constantly somehow let out doesn’t eat them. There’s also ways to address constant runaways, get a shock collar.
I’m sorry, take a little personal accountability for your pets and how you let them out, or do what a good pet owner should do, and fix the problem. Your PSA went from cute PSA to borderline propaganda real fast. Yeesh growmie.
The real PSA is outdoors cats are menace to nature and if you can’t keep them inside because you’re frankly a horrible pet owner, they deserve what happens. I’ll trap them if they come on my property, but the coyotes and bears will get them first before some flowers…. Don’t be an irresponsible pet owner, keep muffins inside, there is ZERO excuse, full stop.
Yikes, you really took that in a weird direction. Lot of judgement and assumption in your post. I've also never really had my cat get out but your delusional if you think that can't happen unless someone is completely careless or a shitty pet owner.
Explain which part is propaganda? ASPCA recommends contacting a vet immediately if you know your cat has been exposed; I'm being "alarmist" for a reason.
The fact that you think people need to worry about what they plant because irresponsible pet owners can’t get their shit together. An outdoor (illegal or legal, still a moronic idea….) cat has a thousand other things to worry about, in fact I do believe if you’re going to be careless they should be eating or taking by a coyote. I have birdhouses and bird feeders, if people are negligent with their animals, I’m giving them a buffet. There is more than one perspective here and your exuding yours as gospel.
Fuck off lmfao. The cats can get fucked the bird population is far more important, but peddle for little muffin dude… yeesh.
To be fair, my second post was more a suggestion you be a responsible pet owner and not bring Lillie's inside your home. The second part of my message was about how you said since its against the law for animals to be outside (lol) its not your problem as if the law controls where cats go or not go. I guess I was trying to point that if you care about the cats in your neighborhood maybe you forego the pretty flower.
I guess I was trying to point that if you care about the cats in your neighborhood maybe you forego the pretty flower.
I was trying to be polite and not bring up a derisive topic, especially since I knew your attitude about outside cats from your first comment.
They aren’t outside animals full stop never have been and never will be. Not even sorry, and they can get fucked, and so can your PSA about not planting lilies outside. Even if they’re legal, you should do the responsible thing for nature (and for you cat, they live 3x as long indoors as semi outdoors) and keep them inside.
If anything, letting your cat outside is the cruel act, you’re killing it in 5 years instead of giving it live a long healthy safe life for 15+ years.
I care about nature, that’s why I don’t care that an invasive predator might get what’s coming. Lmfao. But I’ll trap them first, but no love lost.
Oh yeah? You knew my stance lol? I'm 100% anti outdoor cat. Wtf are you talking about.
You live in a world where no one accidentally has their cat run away. Also that sentence about strays getting fucked really shows a lot about who you are.
Also again moving away from my main argument that lead to this part of the convo (post initial PSA); you should not be bringing lilys inside your home if you have cats. Its reckless..
Also that sentence about strays getting fucked really shows a lot about who you are.
You know what, strays don’t exist here…. So it’s not a problem, so how can it show who I am if it’s not something anyone here needs to concern themselves with? Any strays are eaten by wildlife as a snack, or trapped by residents or the humane society. That’s what a cooperative society that actually cares about nature can do…. Not whatever you are peddling or doing where you are.
Also again moving away from my main argument that lead to this part of the convo (post initial PSA); you should not be bringing lilys inside your home if you have cats. Its reckless..
Please go back and reread your first comment, because that’s not the case at all… you mentioned growing them outside and made an aside comment about indoors.
Be careful planting these (or having them in the home) if you or your neighbors have cats. This plant is extremely toxic and can cause kidney failure!
Yeesh buddy…. You lying about your point now? Because that’s all outdoor…. Yikes….
Nah clearly you aren’t anti outdoor cat, give your head a shake dude. Your first comment was concerned about muffins getting out that you somehow do every day… and constantly say there nothing you can do…. Nothing at all, he just wants to be outside….
You literally don't know which post I'm referring to.. You are talking about the first one, like literal OP and I'm talking about the one where I say "I would argue you shouldn't bring them inside"
Youre actually too mad to think. Imagine risking your pets life so you can bring some toxic shit inside your house instead of just enjoying them in your garden.
Go back to the very initial start of this chain and read very slowly so you dont get confused. I believe its the third message in the chain..thats what I'm referring to. My initial post stands on its own not talking about that.
It’s funny that you just want to ignore your original point of not planting Lillie’s outside ONLY IF your neighbours have cats.
Your initial point doesn’t stand on its own, it’s what started this conversation, and now you’re realized the mistake and want to ignore it. A person who wants to have discussion would acknowledge this fuck up, or atleast correct it. Yet you’ve done neither. The rest of your points are irrelevant to the discussion you created by trying to tell people to not plant lilies outside. If your neighbors have pets.
I guess I was trying to point that if you care about the cats in your neighborhood maybe you forego the pretty flower.
You keep reiterating THIS point every couple comments, than ignore it saying you were taking about inside…. I’ve had to quote you… since you’ve changed your fucking point every comment… get your shit together if you want to have a discussion, or keep your nose and shit about muffin and other peoples yards to yourself. Fucking hell buddy lmfao. I keep brining it up since you do… what else am I to do? Than you ignore it next time and say it wasn’t your point…? You okay there…?
I’ve read the entire chain, you need to again, and slowly, and address your original asinine propaganda point about not planting lilies…. Either that or you failed basic reading comprehension, or just a troll since you won’t acknowledge your original point anymore… why is that…
Is English you second language? You claim you never meant to say don’t plant outdoors, but you have multiple comments after your first iterating that same point you now claim you never made…?
I’m gonna block it you, since clearly you can’t even remember your original point, even though you went and clarified it again in another comment.
Don’t waste your time, this persons entire comment history is full of getting in the most ridiculous, off topic arguments. They need to take a tolerance break from the Internet.
Edit - Somebody once pointed out how weird the post structure involving someone listing a bunch of inline quotes then responding point by point is, and how it’s almost exclusively done by people who get super argumentative for no reason. Every time I see that type of quoting I know I’m in for a wild ride.
People use quotes since when it comes to discussions like this, people like ignoring points.
Which not surprisingly, it’s exactly what the user was doing… notice how it only started to be done when the user started claiming they weren’t saying shit…? Yeah that’s why. They now want to ignore their first comment saying people need to not plant stuff outdoors because of muffin. Their other point only came up after and now they want to think that’s their original… so yeah sure I’m an ass for pointing out a troll and defending myself… right….
It’s called quoting conversations to avoid confusion, edits, and deletes, it’s not surprising that trolls that dont want their stuff quoted and pointed out. It makes it permanent for when you delete your shit people have context.
I am a bitter sad person and a troll.
-SchmidtGenetics
Quoting people means nothing, and is ultimately pointless when you can simply scroll up to the parent comment to see the context. It serves no purpose, does not mirror how conversation flows in person, and is condescending as all fuck. People who do it are typically champing at the bit to get into an argument because it’s the only way they know to communicate. Not a single post you’ve made has done a thing to dispel this notion.
Honestly, if you’re getting into online arguments and dealing with people deleting and editing their posts after the fact so often, you’re probably part of the problem.
I will add that the issue I’ve seen in this particular thread isn’t one of other people ignoring points, it’s one of you misunderstanding and misconstruing other people’s points.
Miss me with that yikes shit. Trying to cast that vibe back at me when you’re the problem lol.
Oh man, this is just the start of my Lille garden blooming, my roses bloomed a few days ago. My columbines are mostly spent, a second round of smaller flowers are coming through though.
