ISW: Economic, military indicators suggest Russia is preparing for large-scale war with NATO ( kyivindependent.com )

Although not an imminent threat, the ISW assesses that Russian President Vladimir Putin's emphasis on growing Russia's economic and military capabilities is an indication that Russia is gearing up for conflict beyond "a protracted war in Ukraine."

ivanafterall ,

Yesterday: Russia is relying heavily on North Korean weaponry and is still losing in Ukraine
Today: Russia is somehow going to take on the entirety of NATO pretty soon

MxM111 ,

If the second statement becomes true, it is only because the West could not believe it is possible and has been not preparing for this. Like it did with the Ukraine war itself.

mihies ,

Nah, it's just but possible for poorly equipped Russian army that struggles against also poorly equipped (mostly scarce and older generation heavy weapons, almost no airplanes and old choppers etc) Ukrainian army. I really don't see how could they wage war against serious weapons and plenty of fresh and trained soldiers NATO members have. The only option would be a nuclear attack but then there is no winner, is it? If I had to guess that's more war industry sending fear to benefit from it.

MxM111 ,

It is poorly equipped now, but that’s what they try to change. And also better equipment means better casualty ratio. But even if the casualty ratio is 5 to 1, they have shown readiness to spend people for “meat storms” - they are ready to spend soldiers’ lives to get advances. Does NATO?

mihies ,

They will run out of people before achieving real advancement, NATO would stop them with better weapons. Let's take for example Avdiivka - one of the biggest factor there were gliding bombs dropped from bombers out of Ukraine air defense reach. Mostly. NATO has plenty of air superiority aircrafts that would smoke out of sky those bombers way before they could drop anything. Then there are precision long range weapons such as proper ATACMS, Taurus and whatnot. I could go on and on :⁠-⁠)

MxM111 ,

I hope you right, but wars were lost precisely because of underestimation of the enemy. Technologically superior Germany (+ allies) could not win war with USSR. And it is not just "General Winter".

mihies ,

I hope that we will never find out...

Kbin_space_program ,

From what I understand as a layman:

They don't have the missiles, and they're using Chinese, Iranian and North Korean supply there.

What they are apparently outgunning NATO on is artillery shell production. None of our countries have switched to wartime production, while Russia has, at least in some degree?

Moreover, if they have commanders that survive now, those commanders will be accustomed to drone warfare and drone based artillery spotting with firsthand experience and ours aren't.

If would still be a slaughter, but a lot of people would die on our side in the process. Not to mention China would absolutely start some shit too. Maybe Modi too, since he's more on his own than with NATO or Russia.

Jaysyn ,
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Russia preparing for large-scale suicide.

Dreizehn ,

The f’n Muscovites switched to a wartime economy and they have the public support to absorb their losses.

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