Kusimulkku ,

I've always thought of being a refugee as a temporarily thing until the situation at the source country settles down.

manucode OP ,

That's true. But refugees who have lived and worked long-time in Germany can get the right to reside here permanently, independently from their right to asylum or similar protection. This is to encourage them to actually get a job rather than just rely on government handouts.

Kusimulkku ,

I think the idea of working while you are living as a refugee can be problematic. I'd be fine with refugees just relying on government assistance for the duration of their stay, assuming it isn't a decade long stay or something.

manucode OP ,

In cases like the Syrian civil war or political prosecution in regimes like Iran, it can easily be more than a decade. If you prohibit anyone from getting any work for that long and force them to sit on their hands (or work illegally without a permit), they will have a hard time getting back into work and probably continue to rely on government handouts. Who wants to employ someone who hasn't worked any job for a decade (as an adult) after all?

So you have a choice: Either you allow and encourage refugees to get into the workforce early and accept that they will probably remain here even if they could return after like 5 years. Or you stop them from working for years and accept that many refugees will remain here for decades and rely on government handouts the entire time without ever finding a job.

AI_toothbrush ,

Haha here in sweden the immigrants are the best thing that happened to this place(saying this as an immigrant...). Other than the manner in which the swedish government distrobuted them which increased violent crime in the pockets of immigrants. They spice up life(literally because swedish food is boring af).

Iceblade02 ,

We had spicy food even before the mass immigration wave, and the gov:t didn't decide how to distribute them, because it isn't allowed to force people to live somewhere.

There were actually several instances where immigrants were bussed to northern Sweden to house them there (lots of nice, cheap, empty housing up north), but they refused to get off the busses. On one occasion a bus driver was threatened with death if he didn't drive them back - guy went for a piss at the next fuel stop and left them.

All in all, a shit situation.

princessnorah ,
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…the gov:t didn't *decide* how to distribute them, because it isn't allowed to force people to live somewhere.

…several instances where immigrants were bussed to northern Sweden to house them…they refused to get off the busses.

So, let me get this straight, the government non-forcefully drove a bunch of immigrants, that had come from the subtropics, to the arctic circle, who refused to get off the buses, and you don’t find anything a little ‘on the nose’ about that?

Sounds like they had a bloody good reason for being upset, and I can’t think of any reason why they’d be in the wrong.

lugal ,

So this refugee is lazy AND takes away our jobs? Big if true

manucode OP ,

Luckily, the man in this story got his work permit back after public backlash (German news report).

agressivelyPassive ,

Sad but true.

This country is desperate for workers and too stubborn and racist to actually let people work here.

vormadikter ,

See, if a refugee exists that actually has a job and can pay for its own life, Ronny, Tschantall and Maik are reminded that they dont have a job and cant pay for their own shit. And as long as this is happening they need to shit on whoever is actually not a lowlife looser because this very fact makes em feel shitty. So they vote afd because its always easier to shit on others than trying to get your own shit together.

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