CaractacusPotts

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CaractacusPotts OP ,

Two brothers were shot dead in front of their family on an evacuation route in Gaza as they were heeding Israeli instructions to flee their home in Khan Younis. The parents say they thought a white flag would keep them safe.

Norman Finkelstein & Craig Mokhiber EXPLAIN ICJ Genocide Decision on Israel ( www.youtube.com )

Norman Finkelstein is a political scientist, prolific author, and son of Holocaust survivors. He received his PhD from the Princeton University Politics Department in 1987. He is the author of many books that have been translated into 60 foreign editions, including THE HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY: Reflections on the exploitation of...

She was fleeing with her grandson, who was holding a white flag. Then she was shot | CNN ( edition.cnn.com )

Out in front, a few paces ahead of the others, Hala was walking with her grandson, Tayem, then 4, holding hands as they navigated a street littered with debris, a white flag in his other hand. Seconds later, a shot rang out and Hala slumped to the ground....

CaractacusPotts OP ,

The International Court of Justice has found it is "plausible" that Israel has committed acts that violate the Genocide Convention. In a provisional order delivered by the court's president, Joan Donoghue, the court said Israel must ensure "with immediate effect" that its forces not commit any of the acts prohibited by the convention.

she said that given the deteriorating situation in Gaza, the court has jurisdiction to order measures to protect Gaza's population from further risk of genocide. https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1227078791/icj-israel-genocide-gaza-palestinians-south-africa

Further you are using a variation of the Argumentum ad populum logical fallacy. It's immaterial which countries agree or disagree. In the end it's the court that matters.

Ad populum fallacy refers to a claim that something is true simply because that’s what a large number of people believe. In other words, if many people believe something to be true, then it must be true.

CaractacusPotts OP ,

What is Sealioning?

Sealioning refers to the disingenuous action by a commenter of making an ostensible effort to engage in sincere and serious civil debate, usually by asking persistent questions of the other commenter. These questions are phrased in a way that may come off as an effort to learn and engage with the subject at hand, but are really intended to erode the goodwill of the person to whom they are replying, to get them to appear impatient or to lash out, and therefore come off as unreasonable.

CaractacusPotts OP ,

I think you're confusing an informal opinion poll taken by the media outlet with official polling numbers. It would have been better to list the polls being cited, but in general most Americans want to see an immediate cease-fire. I'll keep my eyes open for more data

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/6/us-congress-support-for-gaza-ceasefire-lower-than-american-public

CaractacusPotts OP ,

Take that up with the young Americans being polled.

CaractacusPotts OP ,

The Zio-troll has entered the chat

CaractacusPotts OP ,

ICJ says its not a genocide

This is incorrect.

LONDON — The International Court of Justice has found it is "plausible" that Israel has committed acts that violate the Genocide Convention.
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1227078791/icj-israel-genocide-gaza-palestinians-south-africa

I blocked the user, because he was clearly not interested in having a discussion.

CaractacusPotts OP ,

Israeli Intelligence Has Deemed Hamas-Run Health Ministry's Death Toll Figures Generally Accurate

According to the Ministry of Health, which reports to Gaza’s Hamas-led government, at least 27,500 civilians have been killed and more than 63,000 wounded since Israel began military operations in response to the Oct. 7 attacks, which killed at least 1100 Israelis and left more than 250 people hostage.

https://www.vice.com/en/section/news

CaractacusPotts OP ,

The number of people facing possible starvation in the Gaza Strip in the coming weeks is the largest share of a population at risk of famine identified anywhere since a United Nations-affiliated panel created the current global food-insecurity assessment 20 years ago.

“The rigor, scale and speed of the destruction of the structures necessary for survival, and enforcement of the siege, surpasses any other case of man-made famine in the last 75 years,” said Alex de Waal, an expert on humanitarian crises and international law at Tufts University who wrote “Mass Starvation: The History and Future of Famine.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/11/health/gaza-israel-hunger-starvation.html

CaractacusPotts OP ,

Among younger Americans, and along political lines, divisions are more prominent. Almost half of those surveyed aged 18-29, 49%, say Israel is committing genocide, with 24% disagreeing and 27% uncertain.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/24/americans-believe-israel-committing-genocide-poll

CaractacusPotts OP ,

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_i9N6Z0N.pdf

Is There A Genocide in Palestine
Do you think that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinian civilians?

CaractacusPotts OP ,

Don't have to download it. It will open a link. If you don't wanna look at the evidence this conversation is over. Thanks for coming out

CaractacusPotts OP ,

Right and then refused to look at further evidence.

CaractacusPotts OP ,

I presented a reliable source and you refuse to look at it. Do you have problems with the guardian as well?

Among younger Americans, and along political lines, divisions are more prominent. Almost half of those surveyed aged 18-29, 49%, say Israel is committing genocide, with 24% disagreeing and 27% uncertain.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/24/americans-believe-israel-committing-genocide-poll

CaractacusPotts OP ,

Posted the Guardian link previously. This just reinforced the Guardian story.

Free to block me if you don't like the way I post. My feelings won't be hurt.

CaractacusPotts OP ,

To reiterate, you don't have to read my posts.

CaractacusPotts OP ,

I'm using a browser with a built-in PDF reader. I'm sorry I assumed you would do the same.

CaractacusPotts OP ,

I think it alerts me to people that I should block for wasting my time.

CaractacusPotts OP ,

How long are we gonna do this?

CaractacusPotts OP ,

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/24/americans-believe-israel-committing-genocide-poll

CaractacusPotts OP ,

According to the Economist/YouGov poll, roughly equal numbers of adults believe Israel’s military campaign against Palestinians, which is estimated to have killed more than 25,000 people since 7 October, amounts to genocide: 35% say it is, 36% say it isn’t, with 29% undecided.

Among younger Americans, and along political lines, divisions are more prominent. Almost half of those surveyed aged 18-29, 49%, say Israel is committing genocide, with 24% disagreeing and 27% uncertain

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/24/americans-believe-israel-committing-genocide-poll

CaractacusPotts OP ,

Would hope so.

CaractacusPotts OP ,

The ICJ has not made a final ruling on whether Israel is committing genocide, and it could take years to reach a decision. However, it said some of South Africa's arguments are plausible enough for a case and has ordered Israel to take “all measures within its power” to prevent genocide — including refraining from killing or causing harm to Palestinians, preventing and punishing incitement to genocide, and taking immediate action to allow basic aid to Gaza.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/icj-israel-committing-genocide-gaza/

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