JeeBaiChow ,

Did... Did the bubble finally burst? I can has home now?

Alsephina OP ,

The bubble already burst back in 2021 iirc when the company defaulted on its debt and the CPC refused to bail them out (based).

novibe ,

And people still talk about the “China real estate collapse” lmao

Corkyskog ,

Just because the CCP are experts at sweeping things under the rug doesn't mean it's not happening.

Alsephina OP ,

You realize it's basically impossible to disprove something right? Burden of proof etc etc

Evergrande's collapse has been very well documented and is well-known, nothing's being "swept under the rug" here. It's in line with Xi Jinping's "Housing Should Be for Living In, Not for Speculation" policies too

Also, obligatory China home ownership graph; reached 90% in 2018.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/5c86f1b1-868f-498e-a242-b12178d430a9.png

Idk about you but I think the people who've done this prolly know what they’re doing. Ig we'll see how this affects China's housing in the coming years.

rbesfe ,

It should get more interesting with the forced liquidation now though

TacoButtPlug ,
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So, the real estate market in China was over leveraged just - like it's been over leveraged in many other countries. Will be interesting to see how their c̶o̶n̶ ̶a̶r̶t̶i̶s̶t̶s̶, I mean their economists attempt to correct for it. Chances are, if it's happening there it'll start a domino effect on other over leveraged real estate markets.

u_tamtam ,
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Not like "many other countries" but expectedly much worse: real estate has been de facto where most Chinese have been concentrating their wealth as "investment" in the absence of better local alternatives and the inability to invest abroad.

naturalgasbad ,

Haha get fucked bourgeois

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The liquidation order is likely to impact China’s financial system, even as authorities try to prevent a selloff in the Chinese stock market.

Evergrande had been granted a brief reprieve in December after it said it was attempting to “refine” a new debt restructuring plan of more than $300 billion in liabilities.

Fergus Saurin, a lawyer representing an ad hoc group of creditors, said Monday he was not surprised by the outcome.

The judge is expected to provide more reasons for the liquidation order during a separate court session Monday afternoon.

Real estate drove China’s economic boom, but developers borrowed heavily as they turned cities into forests of apartment and office towers.

That has helped to push total corporate, government and household debt to the equivalent of more than 300% of annual economic output, unusually high for a middle-income country.


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