Radium ,

I miss the days when awesome lists were curated to actually have awesome stuff instead of being a list of 250+ self hostable apps.

There is no way these are all awesome. Call it the giant list of self hosted apps or something that actually makes sense.

vegetaaaaaaa ,
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awesome-selhosted maintainer here. This critique comes up often (and I sometimes agree...) but it's hard to properly "fix":

Any rule that enforces some kind of "quality" guideline has to be explicitly written to the contribution guidelines to not waste submitters' (and maintainers) time.

As you can see there are already minimal rules in place (software has to be actively maintained, properly documented, first release must be older than 4 months, must of course be fully Free and Open-source...). Anything more is very hard to word objectively or is plain unfair - in the last 7 years (!) maintaining the list I've spent countless hours thinking about it.

For example, rejecting new projects because an existing/already listed one effectively does the same thing would give an unfair advantage to older projects, effectively "locking out" newer ones. Moreover, you will rarely find two projects that have the exact same feature set, workflow, release frequency, technical requirements... and every user has different needs and requirements, so yeah, users of the list are expected to do some research to find the best solution to their particular needs.

This is of course, less true for some categories (why are there so many pastebins??). But again, it's hard to find clear and objective criteria to determine what deserves to be listed and what does not.

If we started rejecting projects because "I don't have a need for it" or "I already use a somewhat equivalent solution and am not going to switch", that would discard 90% of entries in the list (and not necessarily the worst ones). I do check that projects being added are in a "production-ready" state and ask more questions during reviews if needed. But it's hard to be more selective than we already are, without falling in subjective "I like/I don't like" reasoning (let's ban all Nodejs-based projects, npm is horrible and a security liability. Let's also ban all projects that are so convoluted and impossible to build and install properly that Docker is the only installation option. Follow my thoughts?)

Also, Free Software has always been very fragmented, which is both a strength and a weakness. The list simply reflects that.

Another idea I contemplated is linking each project to a "review" thread for the software in question. But I will not host or moderate such a forum/review board, and it will be heavily brigaded by PR departments looking to promote their companies software.

A HTML version is coming out soon (based on the same data) that will hopefully make the list easier to browse.

I am open to other suggestions, keeping in mind the points above...

250+ self hostable apps

1268 exactly.

You can help cleaning up the list of unmaintained projects by working on this issue

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