Sleazy_Albanese ,

100% correct about 40K but i dont think thats accurate about VTM. Yes the Amaranth is a massive taboo and stigma but its not realistic to think that vampires who drink humans blood never imagined that maybe they could drink each others blood too. Even if they didnt know it could lead to some special outcome. Something cant be a stigma unless its well known of.

https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Diablerie_(VTM)

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