lemmingrad ,

Either the average Russian is responsible for changing their country or the average American is not. You don’t get both.

Yes, exactly, none of them are.

Again, it’s possible to say that what the US did was wrong and still understand that what Russia is doing is also wrong.

What the Russian government is doing is wrong, absolutely. It's not a reason to fall into jingoism and stupid stereotypes.

Bringing the “whatabout” argument at this point is deliberate deflection if you understand that you’re arguing with someone who agrees with you.

But the map is literally placing France and the US in "the good guys". Whataboutism is when you bring out things out of the blue that aren't being disgusted already.

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