Kttnpunk ,

lmfao this explains everything about the fediverse right here

can ,

we know

And they're somehow surprised they're not getting more donations.

Jaysyn ,
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Just another reason I donate to Kbin & not Lemmy.

goat OP Mod ,
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good on ya!

Cruxifux ,

I’ll never understand anybody who isn’t skeptical of what America tries to say about it’s enemies anymore. I don’t know if there’s a genocide happening in China. But most of the world except the United States seems to think there isn’t. And that’s a big fucking red flag to me.

If there is one happening and people are being propagandized into denying it, I blame the United States whole heartedly for the embarrassing amount of disinformation they shit out on a daily basis about China.

goat OP Mod ,
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And this most of the world is...?

Because the United Nations most certainly recognises the genocide, as do many other independent human-rights organisations. oh and the leaked documents.

rbhfd ,

Was gonna refer to the UN rapport as well before I saw your comment.

NOT_RICK ,
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lol and of course now we hear crickets

PRUSSIA_x86 ,
Slotos ,

I’ll never understand this US-centric, bigoted dismissal of anyone and everyone through the lens of American exceptionalism.

You are the problem you so loudly complain about.

Cruxifux ,

That’s because American exceptionalism is a lie and you’re too stupid to see that.

goat OP Mod ,
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They're not arguing for american exceptionalism, dude

Jaysyn ,
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Liar liar, pants on fire.

nonailsleft ,

Wait you blame the US for you denying the Uyghurs are being wiped, because checks notes they're telling you about it
?

Spitzspot ,
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Weak tea

BlinkerFluid ,

Looks like more of a semantics argument to me.

goat OP Mod ,
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That's why we refer to international organisations, or the United Nations

redballooon ,

This link doesn’t support the claim that the UN called these events a genocide. It lists all sorts of human rights violations on a massive scale, but it doesn’t use the word genocide.

I suppose the crux of the matter is that it was the USA, not the UN, and then some of its close allies who named the events a “genocide”.

After this the frontiers harden, nobody talks any more about the actual events, but about the terminology.

goat OP Mod ,
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The UN can’t classify acts as genocides as per its rules. However, it can supply resources for independent international organisations to come to their own conclusions, in which case, most classify it as a genocide.

AnonStoleMyPants ,

UN is not calling it a genocide though? The entire report your link refers to does not mention genocide. It does make a clear point of massive discrimination etc though ä.

goat OP Mod ,
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The UN can't classify acts as genocides as per its rules. However, it can supply resources for independent international organisations to come to their own conclusions, in which case, most classify it as a genocide.

yata ,

That is what the genocide denier wants you to think. It obviously isn't a semantics argument though.

BlinkerFluid ,

I still wouldn't base my entire opinion on someone over one discussion regarding whether something is or isn't a genocide. I hope he doesn't like diet coke or chew with his mouth open.

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