renordquist ,
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Me: Gets PhD in animal behaviour and studies animal behaviour for 20-odd years

Random man: "I, too, have looked at an animal once in my life, I will now e-mail this woman to tell her about animal behaviour that she probably has never seen as fully and expertly I have"

Me: Puts e-mail with the mainsplaining collection

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anne_twain ,
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@renordquist @academicchatter The Museum of Internet Mansplaining will be almost as full as the Museum of Cat Videos.

wakame ,
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@renordquist @academicchatter

"The male human exhibits behavior he considers 'dominant' even when, or despite of, not knowing what he is talking about." :blobcatgiggle:​

RaePatterson ,
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@wakame @renordquist @academicchatter

That's an excellent point. "Dominant" behaviour towards women is the glaze on the cow-pie that turns the common-or-garden opinionated reply-guy into a mansplainer.

Without that attempt to dominate by virtue of his gender, he is often only a fine example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

renordquist OP ,
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Me: puts up message expressing frustration about being mansplained to.

Also me: gets collection of messages from men explaining how mansplaining doesn't exist.

No, I'm not going to get into that conversation. It's a thing. The end.

piratero ,

@renordquist @academicchatter exactly, it’s a thing! Let me ‘splain to you why this is so….

WanderingTaoist ,
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@renordquist
Today a woman told me I was doing something wrong. Of course, because of my gender.
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altlife ,
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isagalaev ,
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@renordquist @academicchatter having read that, I am now dying for the details :-)

SchwarzRund ,
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@renordquist @academicchatter mentioned my artist Name in a conversation with someone at a conference. Dr.Dude overhead it, explained to me the function of Black history in the methaphors of my novel. Tried multiple Times to explain that i did in fast not only knew about that novel but wrote it. Dude Was shure that SchwarzRund must be a dude. Hella weird, even asked me to proof I am..me?! My face is on the author Page in the printed novel!!

wolfkin ,
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@SchwarzRund @renordquist @academicchatter I bet he walked away and still somehow wasn't embarrassed.

WhiteCatTamer ,
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@SchwarzRund @renordquist @academicchatter Please tell me you said “If you’d actually read my book, you’d know this isn’t the first time we’ve been face to face.”

VoiceofDuum ,
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@SchwarzRund @renordquist @academicchatter

gotta be a trophy for that ... him for landing the double-putz and you for withstanding it

RoyBrander ,
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@renordquist @academicchatter

A step forward was taken during the pandemic, when a large number of male immunologists, epidemiologists, and vaccinologists got a taste of what all that is like.

ubo ,
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@renordquist
Well, I am a man. So let me explain to you... no, just kidding!

What an idiot! I bet, your collection of idiots isn't small?!

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knud ,
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@renordquist @academicchatter

Most of us astronomers have email folders like that. Mansplaining (also to men) why we're all wrong with a tendency towards conspiracy theories.

tobychev ,
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@knud
Is the difference between a mansplainer and a crank only the gender labels of the two interacting parties?
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knud ,
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@tobychev @renordquist @academicchatter

In my use not. Mansplaining for me is a condescending explaining of issues to people that probably have more knowledge on the topic than the mansplainer. And it's 95% men that do this, but not exclusively.

Crank for me is someone that propagates non-scientific "science" ideas.

Those cranks that I hear of are usually also mansplainers (and men, as far as I can tell), but only some mansplainers are cranks.

erzsebel ,
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@renordquist @academicchatter yesterday a man taught me some things about listening skills that I've only known for 15 years.

renordquist OP ,
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@erzsebel @academicchatter ...and how much of those listening skills was he using when you told him that? 😉

Have had these encounters live, of course, and somehow that feels more unconsious from the mansplainer (andnin that sense maybe harder to combat). But sitting down and writing an e-mail to a stranger feels very next-level and yet, I get a lot of these.

hamza ,
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@renordquist @erzsebel @academicchatter Why do you feel it is harder to combat if it’s unconscious?

renordquist OP ,
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@hamza @erzsebel @academicchatter
I'm not completely sure. I think because there is the extra step of first pointing out what is going on and gettin the 'splainer to believe it.

hamza ,
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@renordquist @hamza @erzsebel @academicchatter I think someone intentionally mansplaining would get defensive upon confrontation, whereas pointed out to someone unintentionally doing it would really depend on how agreeable they are. I’m trying to understand the other gender’s perspective of this. To be honest I do not notice it happen infront of me, so i’m trying to be more aware of it, or I work and hang out with really cool people that never do that :)

renordquist OP ,
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@hamza @erzsebel @academicchatter I think the issue for me is that you never know how agreeable someone will be upon having this pointed out. Which means thinking about how to frame, what kind of damage that might do, and weighing whether that is worth it.

It's an extra unwelcome several steps in trying to just [hand waving] live and do science [end waving]. Unless it is someone I deal with very regularly, I usually just can't be bothered to call people on it.

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