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Yes, and hopefully peace will be achieved as soon as possible so that that process can happen, but it's a little hard to track people down during the chaos of war. This isn't a new phenomenon.

Objection , (edited ) to Political Memes in There are few things fascists hate as much as antifascist coalitions
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The heroic SPD, who shoveled two million conscripts to their deaths in the pointless meat grinder of WWI (which killed 20 million, all told) and violently suppressed opposition to it in the name of "national unity." Yes, I can see the resemblance.

By the way, the 1932 German Presidential election had three candidates: the nefarious communist candidate Ernst Thälmann, Adolf Hitler, and Paul von Hindenburg. The winner was not Hitler, it was Hindenburg, who then proceeded to appoint Hitler as chancellor. If only the KPD hadn't split the vote between Hitler and the guy who would appoint Hitler, the guy who won anyway might have won and, uh, done exactly what he did, which is appoint Hitler chancellor and enable him to rise to power.

Obviously, the lesson to take away from this is that the people who tried to stop both world wars were on the wrong side of history, and the people who supported the guy who appointed Hitler chancellor in order to stop him from coming to power were right about everything and worthy of emulation.

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"Pro-democracy conservatives" in an antifascist coalition, y'all crack me up sometimes.

Objection , to solarpunk memes in "Contrary to a 'horseshoe' theory, the evidence reveals increasing antisemitism moving from left to right."
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I don't know that I agree with your definition of extreme. On the one hand, there's popularity of various ideas, and on the other, there's how much the idea differs from the way things are currently done. It's possible for an idea drastically different from the status quo to be popular, but it would still be considered extreme because of how big of a change it would be.

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What I'm saying is that the problem isn't moving war orphans out of a conflict zone, the problem is that there's a conflict zone in the first place.

It's not as if these orphans are some sort of "prize" to be won and brought home as spoils. Caring for them takes resources. Individual Russian families are not out there twirling their moustaches thinking, "How can I help destroy Ukrainian culture... I know! I'll adopt a child and spend years raising them as my own, that'll show 'em!"

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What I'm learning from this is that libs are perfectly fine with children being left to die in an active war zone and are actively opposed to getting them to safety.

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We're talking about war orphans, children whose families cannot be located.

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I'd be better than the current situation, yes. It's by no means ideal, but Palestinian children would be better off being adopted by Israeli families than starving to death or being bombed or shot. My problem is with them putting them in the situation in the first place.

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Being a tankie is when you consider children being adopted to parents who raise them in a safe environment "safety," in comparison to living in a war zone.

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So if Israel took every Palestinian child they saw, regardless of what family they have

Russia is not doing this. We're talking about war orphans.

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It also says:

The Arms Export Control Act of 1976 gives the President of the United States the authority to control the import and export of defense articles and defense services.

Now, I'm not a lawyer, but these people are and they say:

“The law is clear and aligned with the majority of Americans who believe the U.S. should cease arms shipments to Israel until it stops its military operation in Gaza”

Biden himself exercised an emergency provision in the law to bypass congress, in order to send more weapons to Israel

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So you want them to stay in the orphanage system indefinitely, until the war ends.

I'm sorry but the pressing, immediate issue is the humanitarian crisis. The orphanage system of any country can only handle so many and if there are families willing to take them in, then that's better than the alternatives for them. Cultural concerns are secondary to humanitarian ones.

Also we don't really know what Russia's plans are for war orphans after the war ends. The idea that they have no intention of returning them seems like speculation on your part.

The thing that would change my mind on this is to see established precedent for how these issues have been handled in the past, during previous wars. Every war creates war orphans but not every war is classified as a genocide.

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POTUS does not have the power to unilaterally end that agreement; Congress does.

False

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We're talking about war orphans. Generally, their family is either dead or can't be located.

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Where they'll be raised by French or German or English parents, etc. Still doesn't address your core issue.

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