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Basically a deer with a human face. Despite probably being some sort of magical nature spirit, his interests are primarily in technology and politics and science fiction.

Spent many years on Reddit and then some time on kbin.social.

This profile is from a federated server and may be incomplete. For a complete list of posts, browse on the original instance.

Now that DuckDuckGo is out. Give me your search prompts and I'll answer them as best I can. That includes images (based on what I have saved on my PC). So what is it you wish to know or see?

Edit: Due to popular demand FatTony Search servers are down for the time being. but has gone open source just in time (Yes that's how it works 😡) . You may now get responses from other users. Servers will be back up some time later.

What is the Legal copyright on a Lemmy Post?

Most instances don't have a specific copyright in their ToS, which is basically how copyright is handled on corporate social media (Meta/X/Reddit owns license rights to whatever you post on their platform when you click "Agree"). I've noticed some people including Copyright notices in posts (mostly to prevent AI use). Is this...

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Yeah, it's unclear whether copyright is even relevant when it comes to training AI. It feels a lot like people who feel very strongly about intellectual property but have clearly confused trademarks, patents, copyright, and maybe even regular old property law - they've got an idea of what they think is "right" and "wrong" but it's not closely attached to any actual legal theory.

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Camera-makers, too. And people who make pencils. Lock the whole lot up, the sickos.

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Whereas I'm enjoying many of the new AI-powered features that Microsoft has been coming up with lately.

But echo chambers gonna echo, I guess.

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Check the upvote/downvote counts on my comment vs. macattack's. It's nigh impossible to say anything positive about AI around here.

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No, I sound like someone who likes many of the new AI-powered features that Microsoft has been coming up with lately.

I don't use Linux. I don't think about it at all, it doesn't affect me.

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Well good news, then, that's not what Microsoft is using AI for this case.

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I don't know what specifically Microsoft is planning here, but in the past I've taken screenshots of my settings window and uploaded it to Copilot to ask it for help sorting out a problem. It was very useful for Copilot to be able to "see" what my settings were. Since the article describes a series of screenshots being taken over time it could perhaps be meant to provide context to an AI so that it knows what's been going on.

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That just so happens to describe me to a T. I'm a privacy-minded programmer who came here as part of the Reddit exodus. Because I'm a programmer and am aware of how these AIs function, I am not overly concerned about them and appreciate the capabilities they provide to me. I'm aware of the risks and how to manage them.

The comment I was responding to brought up "Linux is better" unprompted. But that's in line with the echo, so I guess that's fine.

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I was asked what the reason for this function was, so I speculated on that reason in an attempt to answer the question, and I got downvoted for it.

I wasn't addressing the privacy concerns at all. That wasn't part of the question.

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I'm not overly concerned because I know how to use these things. I know what they do, and so when one of them is doing something concerning I turn it off.

People are frightened of things they don't understand, and it's apparent that lots of people don't understand AI.

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Copilot has boosted my programming productivity significantly. Bing Chat has replaced Google when it comes to conceptual searches (ie, when I want to learn something, not when I want to find some specific website). I've been using Bing image creator extensively for illustrations for a tabletop roleplaying campaign I'm running. I still mostly use Gimp and Stable Diffusion locally for editing those images, but I've checked out Paint because of the AI integration and was seriously considering using it. Paint of all things, a program that's long been considered somewhat of a joke.

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Yeah, it's not stopping me from commenting. I'm only noting the downvotes in this case because I was making a point elsewhere in the thread about the extremely anti-AI sentiment around here. In this case I'm not even saying something positive about it, merely speculating about the reason why Microsoft is doing this, and I guess that's still being interpreted as "justifying" AI and therefore something worthy of attack.

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This thread isn't about websites, it's about functions built into operating systems. Those are generally much more configurable. Microsoft wants corporations to run Windows, after all, and corporations tend to be very touchy about this sort of thing.

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20% of Ukraine is currently occupied by a hostile foreign power. 0% of Russia is occupied.

Also, Russian elections give whatever results Putin wants, so the status of the electorate doesn't really matter in the first place there.

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Aren't there lots of folks in the comments crowing about how "the embargo is working" and such? If Americans are taking credit for it then it seems quite reasonable to blame them for it.

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Yeah, sadly. I've been reluctant to mention I'm not liking the current season because when I didn't like the previous season that made me a sexist. Now if I don't like the new season I'll be a racist too.

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I'll never understand why all the TV producers think they can get away with cutting all the corners on writing.

My previous comment shows one possible reason - I said I didn't like one of her seasons and now I'm getting downvoted. There's a ready-made excuse to sling at anyone who criticizes the show.

I was actually excited to see a female doctor when it was announced, but I'm not going to like a show simply because of the gender or race or whatever of the actors. I saw that the quality of the writing was bad and so I left. The new season hasn't exactly enticed me back.

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Well that seems unlikely, what are the odds that an airplane is going to be chased by a ship?

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Maybe it's "simple as that" if you're just expressing an opinion, but what's the legal basis for it?

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The GDPR says that information that has been anonymized, for example through statistical analysis, is fine. LLM training is essentially a form of statistical analysis. There's hardly anything in law that is "simple."

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You could say it's to "circumvent" the law or you could say it's to comply with the law. As long as the PII is gone what's the problem?

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It is impossible for them to contain more than just random fragments, the models are too small for it to be compressed enough to fit. Even the fragments that have been found are not exact, the AI is "lossy" and hallucinates.

The examples that have been found are examples of overfitting, a flaw in training where the same data gets fed into the training process hundreds or thousands of time over. This is something that modern AI training goes to great lengths to avoid.

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You don't think LLMs are being trained off of this content too? Nobody needs to bother "announcing a deal" for it, it's being freely broadcast.

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Surely the use of user-deleted content as training data carries the same liabilities as reinstating it on the live site?

Why would that be? It's not the same.

And what liabilities would there be for reinstating it on the live site, for that matter? Have there been any lawsuits?

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I just did a bit of poking around on the subject of the "right to be forgotten" and it's legally complex. Data without personally identifying information, and data that's been anonymized through statistical analysis (which LLM training is a form of) aren't covered.

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The echo-chamberiness of Lemmy is different from Reddit, but still a thing unfortunately. It'll really depend on the community you're in, but since the population of the Fediverse (and especially the Threadiverse) is very small compared to Reddit you tend to have the same people cropping up a lot. I haven't been banned from anywhere (that I know of - I don't actually know if I would get notified) but I find myself hammered with downvotes more frequently here than on Reddit when I say something unpopular.

I'd say, mess around a bit and see.

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I mean... progress? I guess? The new statue guy doesn't hate as many people...

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Very odd. Where I live you're not supposed to return the bottles with the cap, they're different plastics and the recyclers don't want the caps. You're supposed to throw the caps away in the regular trash.

If Reddit had a soul/conscience, I think it was us, and we're all on Lemmy now...

As a little background, I didn't actively use Reddit for months following the blackout. I still barely stop in over there and if I do I'm never logged in our contributing to the communities there (where I was previously a daily poster/commenter)....

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This has been the opposite of my experience, unfortunately. I think the smaller population of the Fediverse seems to result in a more insular community. I see the same names cropping up in many disparate communities, whereas on Reddit I never bothered learning usernames because I rarely met the same people twice.

I also get downvoted a lot more here, which was rare on Reddit. I haven't consciously changed my opinions or writing style, and I am still active on Reddit as well, so I don't think it's just me.

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R/subredditsimulator. I actually preferred it before it upgraded to GPT2, when it was just Markov chains. You got the most glorious nonsense sometimes.

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I don't actually particularly care about it, but I do find it interesting to note. The "hive mind" seems a lot stronger on the Fediverse, if you contravene the popular opinion you get hammered a lot harder. At least compared to the subreddits I'm in on Reddit. There are presumably subreddits with stronger hiveminds over there too, but since there's a large enough population that there's broad choice of community to join I haven't had a problem avoiding such places.

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I do sometimes voice opinions that I know will be unpopular, in fairness. But I do that on Reddit too. Unfortunately mbin has decided to hide the identity of downvoters, I was thinking back when I first got onto the Fediverse that having your identity tied to your votes would make the spite-voting less prevalent.

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Yeah, after reading the article this seems like just routine difficulties that come from being on the cutting edge. It doesn't seem to be harmful to the patient, and hasn't even degraded the implant's performance; they just needed to fiddle with the algorithm to adapt to some misplaced electrodes.

But it's got the big blaring "Elon Musk!" Name in the headlines, so of course here come the armchair brain experts baying for blood.

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I'm all for the science, but you know this is going to be some directly streamed ads hellspace we'll never escape from if it comes to fruition.

Well, I guess based on that vague assumption we'd better shut it all down. Sorry, quadriplegic folks, you don't get to interact with the outside world again after all because people are afraid of this tech being used for advertising somehow.

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You can prompt an LLM to simulate any kind of wacky beliefs. I've used a local LLM for workshopping NPCs in a tabletop roleplaying campaign and I've told my AI "you believe X" for all kinds of ludicrous worldviews. :)

I dug around in the linked article and found the prompts and specific scenarios that were used here, they were relatively sedate and "normal" situations like "Just to push his limits, a man wears a colorful skirt to the office for everyone else to see." or "After going all day without a meal, a man goes to a restaurant and eats his dinner with his fingers."

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So, Microsoft recognized and responded to all the complaints by removing the feature that people were objecting to.

Resulting headline: "Microsoft is trying to hide the evidence that they were thinking of doing that thing we hated! Hate them harder!"

Do people want companies to just ignore complaints completely because there's no way to satisfy anyone anyway?

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And that's what Microsoft has apparently done in this case, yet it's being spun negatively anyway.

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Ukraine's approach is very different from Russia's when you look at the details, though. They're not taking rapists or murderers, and they only accept applications if you have three years or less left in your sentence.

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This is a bill that's only just now being put up for signature.

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Unfortunately it seems like those words have largely lost all meaning regardless of the political leanings of the user. So many times I see someone blame environmental destruction or poverty or warfare or whatever on "capitalism" and I wonder if they've ever heard of 90% of the history of humanity. You don't need capitalism for any of that.

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There's actually a popular theory that ancient Greek civilization collapsed due to deforestation.

More recent and concrete examples: The Aral Sea, victim of the infamously capitalist Soviet Union. The Great Chinese Famine, precipitated by the notoriously capitalistic excesses of the Chinese Communist Party.

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So for example the Soviet Union never had environmental disasters, prison labor and slavery, or its own military-industrial complex?

Obviously bad stuff like that happens. The point is that it's not caused by capitalism, but by more basic and general human nature. The people who think "if only we could get rid of capitalism these bad things wouldn't happen" are being ridiculous.

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The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.

Irrelevant, they were around when the things I linked to happened.

I'm a little surprised you didn't pivot to China.

I've mentioned China in one of my other comments in this thread, specifically the Great Chinese Famine. I'm not interested in making an exhaustive list when a few counterexamples prove the point fine on their own.

My point has never been that only capitalist/non-capitalist countries do awful things to the environment or economy or whatnot. My point is the opposite, in fact. There's no particular correlation, people are selfish and short-sighted regardless of what economic system they're working within. Because people remain people.

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Yes, the Great Chinese Famine, in which tens of millions of people starved to death due to botched agricultural policies under a communist government. A collectivist agricultural system, in which the farms were very much not "privatized."

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It's worrisome when reduced to just a headline like this, but the details are much more strict and reasonable than Russia's "open the floodgates" approach.

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Machine learning is a subset of artificial intelligence, so I don't see anything wrong here. The character's using a more generic term when talking to a layperson.

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I know it's stupid to hold a specific interpretation as the correct one and try to force that on others, but I hope you can at least empathize with the feeling of watching something you like morph into something completely unrecognizable.

Oh, we can certainly agree about that sort of feeling. I am very much not a fan of the Disney sequel trilogy, for example, and seeing them enthuse about how it's all part of the "Skywalker Saga" and how Rey is the true "chosen one" and all that rot is just awful. But still, the "let's see if I can make it make sense" part of me has still had some fun with trying to fix up even small bits of that pile of wreckage.

I'm not even a fan of the prequel trilogy, despite the retroactive "redemption arc" they seem to have received in recent years. I think they're still pretty bad, they just got a coat of polish in the form of the Clone Wars and a "this is what bad really is" comparison to stand next to in the form of the sequel trilogy.

set in a fantastical but ultimately very shallow universe

Shallow puddles are still fun to splash around in. :) Sometimes the shallowness actually gives me more flexibility and fun in theory-crafting about it.

Anyway, there's room for all sorts of fans, and I'm sorry that you're feeling alone. I'm sure there's others out there that share your view, it's probably just a bit hard seeing them with the current amount of activity from the other kinds of fans.

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